I'm so happy seeing Jeff looking into overall picture and seeing how wild and dangerous things were back than.
I hate the most cases when abusers used physical torture to make innocent victims obedient, it is awful, it is violent and it is very difficult to deal with.
Abusers (monsters) are using so devastating and destructive force that many years are not enough for healing.

I'll just add (((Puffer and Jeff))) you both are our heroes!

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