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#84307 - 09/07/06 01:14 AM Combatants caught on film authorizing use of rape in war.
MrEdd Offline

Registered: 01/24/03
Posts: 340
Loc: Texas
“Kill, rape, destroy”

6 September 2006 | 16:52 | Source: B92, Beta
BANJA LUKA -- Banja Luka’s ATV station broadcasted footage of Hamdija Delalić ordering murders and the destruction of villages.

Hamdija Delalić, commander of the V corps’ 502 brigades of the Muslim military, can be clearly seen and heard in the video calling for an attack on Fikret Abdić and the Republic of Srpska Military.

“A breach must be made. Kill all that stands in front of you. I am permitting and ordering that the enemies be killed using all necessary means, knives, bombs, hunting knives, teeth.” Delalić said to his soldiers in the video.

“Can we rape?”

Commanders of the 505 and 510 brigade of the V corps of the Bosnia-Herzegovina military, Izet Nanić and Amir Avdić are also seen in the video. When asking whether the soldiers were allowed to rape people, Delalić said that they have the right to do anything they want.

The aftermath

President of the Association of Western Bosnian Prisoners of War, Esad Čović, told ATV that the direct consequences of Delalić’s orders were the burning of several villages and many rapes.

Čović said that one woman that was raped several times and suffered more than 200 knife cuts on her body, adding that members of the 505 brigade carved their emblem into her body.

“She had a nervous break down because of this and unfortunately will never again be a person that you will be able to talk to.” Čović said.

“That brigade was led by the commander of the V corps of the Bosnia-Herzegovina army, General Atif Dudaković. The Association of Western Bosnian Prisoners of War sent documents to the Hague Tribunal in 1999 regarding the crimes of the V corps, but an answer never came back, so we decided to forward the documentation to the Bosnia-Herzegovina state prosecution.” Čović said.

Some Things are not problems to be solved, rather, they are facts which must be coped with over time.

#84308 - 09/09/06 01:02 AM Re: Combatants caught on film authorizing use of rape in war.
reality2k4 Offline

Registered: 07/06/04
Posts: 6845
Loc: Stuck between water, air, and ...
I will hand one thing down to the German army during WW2, you would be shot dead if found to have committed any sexual violation on duty, no questions asked.

The Bosnian forces should know better, as their own people were forced to endure such atrocities.

I remember an interview with a Chechen rebel regarded as a terrorist, and he said that he had to endure watching his whole family being raped and tortured and feeling helpless.

His family were shot dead, and he said, "is that what makes 'me' a terrorist".
What would you do? He cried out emotionally!

The Taliban were used by the U.S to do their deeds once, and they were called freedom fighters, but once they are spent, and get in the way of the bulldozer, they become terrorists.

The wealthy royal Saudi prince, Osama Bin Laden, is still at large, but that is how they want it to be, because capture would open a huge can of worms, and killing him would cause the states to go into recession.

It is sad that rape goes on in war, and if I were the commander and caught you, then you would not get a chance to say your prayers, NO, not you, but anyone who I witnessed cause such atrocity,


Whoever stole the Sun, put it back and we'll drop all the charges!

#84309 - 09/09/06 07:38 PM Re: Combatants caught on film authorizing use of rape in war.
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Registered: 05/02/05
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I think this easily happens in wartime because troops are trained to dehumanize their enemy - kill or be killed, as the saying goes. Then in modern conflicts it is often so difficult to differentiate between civilians and the fighters who melt away among them when they have to. So troops become more and more frustrated with an enemy that is clearly standing right there in front of them, but mixed in with the civilians, who often support them for their own reasons anyway.

I wonder how troops are trained now regarding such situations. To judge from some of the problems in Iraq, not very well. I know there are several cases of rape and murder before military tribunals now, and a lot depends on the message that these tribunals send to the guys in the field. What exactly would be the justification for letting a soldier in combat get away with rape?

A troubling topic.

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