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#7872 - 05/10/04 02:08 AM Re: Maybe this is why
Bill_1965 Offline
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Registered: 06/29/03
Posts: 1986
Loc: Flint, Michigan

You are free to speak. Keep reaching out. Be yourself. Be true to yourself.

Take care,

Pain is Temporary; Quitting lasts Forever. - Lance Armstrong

#7873 - 05/10/04 04:37 AM Re: Maybe this is why
MrDon Offline

Registered: 01/08/01
Posts: 957
Loc: Deltona, FL
You're figuring it out.... and I can so totally relate to what you wrote here. I'm constantly trying to measure up to others and I'm constantly afraid that I'm going to screw up... But what you said was so correct, so true.


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#7874 - 05/10/04 04:38 AM Re: Maybe this is why
yesac76 Offline

Registered: 03/23/04
Posts: 508
Loc: Idaho
I am not offended. You are being honest, and I respect honesty above almost all else! Keep reaching out, we will be here.

"You live it or lie it" Metallica

#7875 - 05/10/04 08:58 AM Re: Maybe this is why
Stephen_5 Offline
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Registered: 09/12/00
Posts: 667
Loc: Northern California Foothills

Trust in others is very hard for me to give too and I hate it when people complement me, I just don't want believe it. I've met some of the guys from this site in person and they have all been without exception supportive and honest and caring people.

Please keep posting, keep reaching out, keep trying, it does get better, it does help.

Take good care of yourself,


I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center.
Kurt Vonnegut (1922-2007)

#7876 - 05/10/04 11:12 PM Re: Maybe this is why
Lloydy Offline
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Registered: 04/17/02
Posts: 7071
Loc: England Shropshire
if you have to 'fight' - then FIGHT !
kick, bite and poke their f*****g eyes out if you have to. Don't let the abusers beat you, 'cause they didn't play by the rules - did they ?


Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined. As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler.
Henry David Thoreau

#7877 - 05/11/04 12:57 AM Re: Maybe this is why
Dale English Offline
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Registered: 06/08/03
Posts: 448
Loc: PA
Hey Marc,

This thread really hits us all where we live! I can remember the first time I reached out to another survivor I'd met at a retreat. Before leaving, I asked him if we could be pen pals (pre-email). I remember spending hours trying to write a simple letter because I'd write it and rewrite it over and over until it was flawless. When I finally told him I was doing that, he asked me to try writing and mail the letter just as it was, with cross outs and all. It was nerve wracking to do it but I sent it. I remember not long after that having an assignment to do in therapy to write down my list of "needs". What the hell were those? One that I'll never forget was "I need people in my life with whom I can share my thoughts, feelings and self without the need to edit anything"!

What a blessing it is to have found a place where there are so many men who fit the bill! So don't change a word of it brother. Let us hear it as real as it really is. And when you feel the earth shaking under your feet, that's just all of us pounding our fists and stomping our feet cheering you on.


#7878 - 05/11/04 06:11 AM Re: Maybe this is why
faceinthecrowd Offline

Registered: 12/02/03
Posts: 40
Marc,You took the words right out of my mouth.Thanks for having the courage to write them.//////////faceitwithallofus

#7879 - 05/11/04 01:51 PM Re: Maybe this is why
Ivo Offline

Registered: 05/08/04
Posts: 267
Loc: Germany
Marc trust is something that won't be easy to regain back.
Work hard on self discovering. Open your mind and trust yourself. Prize for your efforts would surprise you.

When I say that I am strong I think that I am strong because I know how vulnerable I am, and how much energy I need to spend for "normal" functioning compared to "normal" people. Do you really think that your perspective is different?


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