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#49595 - 03/06/03 05:51 AM Re: is suicide really all that bad?
ScottyTodd Offline
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Registered: 02/12/03
Posts: 1561
Loc: Pennsylvania
IS SUICIDE ALL THAT BAD? Powerful posts! Deep, deep searching questions! Many of us have been bombarded by thoughts of have I. The pain can get overwhelming...and it has at times. There have been strong pulls at so many times over the years...BUT...I have not attempted suicide because I could not cause even deeper pain to family - wife and three children. If it were only me? I don't think I would consider suicide seriously. Know why? Because I have survived through the deep valleys in order to experience the highs - my son's graduation; my daughters wedding; being able to help male kids and teens to face abuse survival and recovery; I would have missed being able to talk with groups about sexual abuse and ways they can help; I would have missed a thousand beautiful days with my wife and kids because I could not see all these times of sunshine because of the overwhelming feelings of gloom and pain. People used to tell me - One Day At A Time...Things won't be like this forever...Hang on and keep going forward. It was hard to believe them then but I can thank them for encouraging past suicide. I would have missed the great times in life - beautiful times; powerful times; proud times! I still endure pain...the abuse I suffered messed me up for a long time...and I still have scars and memories that bleed at times. Flashbacks..and thoughts...struggles; but I found it worth the work to see the promise of happy, beautiful days ahead that were hidden from my sight..just promises hoped for. I found it worth it!

If you think you can or you can't - you're right!.......anon
It's never too late to have a happy childhood!.....anon
You're very normal for the abnormal situation you've been through..............S. Todd

#49596 - 03/06/03 02:32 PM Re: is suicide really all that bad?
zadok1 Offline

Registered: 11/05/02
Posts: 188
Loc: Ohio
at a teen struggling with his sexuality and place in the world-yes i considered suicide. though i wasnt save or a Christian by any means, i believed there was a God, and that suicide was an instant ticket to hell. that theology kept me from any serious attempts. oh i would go to bed praying to be made impotent or not to wake up, but i could never attempt it by my own hand.

the future is an unknown. if i had done something then, i would have missed marriage, healing, children, and all the good things. after abuse i got locked into the negative things in life. looking back there were always good things, i just didnt see them at the time. i have learned to cling to the good things. they are my strength.

The world is a dangerous place, not because of those that are evil, but because of those who do nothing about them- Albert Einstein

#49597 - 03/06/03 03:31 PM Re: is suicide really all that bad?
Wuamei Offline

Registered: 08/19/02
Posts: 2700
Loc: The left turn I should have ta...
By request of Blacken the starter of this thread,
I am going to try to close this thread on a positive note. After this note is posted I will lock the thread.

To honor Blacken's request & the closing of this thread, "please do not post to this issue elsewhere, although concerns may be communicated directly to a Moderator by Private Mail" if that is necessary.

Please review Forum Guidelines at the link on the top of this page.

Now, to try to put "closure" on such a topic...

First of all, everyone's contributions to this thread are greatly appreciated. Suicide is a triggering topic to say the least, for some more than others. It's also a subject that is very subjective & personal, eliciting a obviously wide variety of opinions. It's not been an easy thread to post to or to read. But it seems it has been worth it.

Secondly, for no other reason than that it is/was the topic, and a sense of moderator duty, I want to remind everyone, especially anyone who may have been really triggered by this topic, to seek help at a local crisis shelter or emergency room if you are having strong suicidal feelings & urges. Please.

Third, whatever our views about it, suicide, and what happens afterward, compromise things that are unknown to us, if not by belief then by personal experience (obviously, since we're all still here). What we do all experience personally,
in whatever ways, is the NOW.

May all of your NOWs be healing, recovery, peace, fullness & life.


"I can't stand pain. It hurts me."
--Daffy Duck

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