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#48484 - 12/20/04 11:33 PM Trust is NOT gone
Leosha Offline

Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 3614
Loc: Right here
For personal reasons, it is taking a LOT for me to say that right now. But I have to say it.


I'm apologizing to Leosha for hitting the wrong button...I meant to hit PM and I hit EDIT instead. I apologize to him for giving any indication that this post needed did was just my slip of the finger.
DN Mod in humility

Avatar photo in memory of my younger brother Makar.

"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted."~~~Martin Luther King Jr., 1963

#48485 - 12/21/04 02:13 AM Re: Trust is NOT gone
Mike Church Offline
Moderator Emeritus
Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 3439
Loc: Toronto, Canada
I feel exactly the same way Leosha



#48486 - 12/21/04 03:30 AM Re: Trust is NOT gone
reality2k4 Offline

Registered: 07/06/04
Posts: 6845
Loc: Stuck between water, air, and ...
I srill trust, but I just want all this hurt in this place to cease, we don't deserve or need it right now, sometimes things in here make me feel like the lost little boy, he sure doesn't need that,


Whoever stole the Sun, put it back and we'll drop all the charges!

#48487 - 12/21/04 03:51 AM Re: Trust is NOT gone
Lloydy Offline
Administrator Emeritus
Registered: 04/17/02
Posts: 7071
Loc: England Shropshire
Trust is slow to gain, but can be lost in an instant.

It takes even longer to regain the trust we've lost, but regain it we will.

And to everyone who has sent messages of support and offers of help to myself and the mod's, thank you so much.


Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined. As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler.
Henry David Thoreau

#48488 - 12/21/04 04:06 AM Re: Trust is NOT gone
Kenn Offline

Registered: 07/10/04
Posts: 146
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Originally posted by Lloydy:
Trust is slow to gain, but can be lost in an instant.

It takes even longer to regain the trust we've lost, but regain it we will.

And to everyone who has sent messages of support and offers of help to myself and the mod's, thank you so much.

I was away from the site for a while so I came back to find quite a dust-up going on. I can only imagine what it would be like to be a newcomer and find this.

That said, I want to tell that newcomer - with my thanks to everyone who moderates, sits on the Board, and so on - our discussions here as survivors, just letting it out, is far more important than any problems which might arise from time to time.

I began this work (again) here. From here I have been referred to additional resources (thanks again, Mike!). There is great work here and I want to do what I can to keep it going.


"This above all; to thine own self be true."

William Shakespeare, Hamlet

#48489 - 12/21/04 04:59 AM Re: Trust is NOT gone
RICK57 Offline

Registered: 12/31/03
Posts: 1611
I was about to add a comment to a post that indicates that some negative activities /comments have taken place behind the scenes.... I am not going to do that - I am going to start a new post reminding everyone of what can be gained from this site! *I don't know what has happened ...just remember we are the biggest band of brothers that should really care about each other!

Best wishes again ...Rik

*Never look down on anybody unless you're helping them up.
*I was seeking a way of expressing my anger - I found hope!
*There are many battles before the war is won! It can be won!

#48490 - 12/21/04 07:16 AM Re: Trust is NOT gone
jimrh Offline

Registered: 03/22/03
Posts: 273
Loc: Roswell, GA
Trust may not be gone, no. If you lose your trust then what else is there? Probably not much.

However, trust is a big word with only a few letters, just like love.

One may say, after suffering a broken heart because of a loss of a love, that they can never love again. Perhaps, but then, isn't that a choice?

The human spirit is a learning one. It is always moving forward, always adjusting, always adapting.

I have refrained from speaking out in this public forum for quite some time. I feel I have to speak on this issue because it is near and dear to my heart.

While this site may in and of itself not be a true replacement for professional psychological help that most of us need, what this site does do is offer friendship, kinship and most of all community. To know that we are not alone in our struggle.

I only ask that eveyone not give up. There are many of us out here that are real, that are truthful, that are who we say we are, who have been through our own versions of hell and have survived. I am real. Many of you know me, to all the new people, let me tell you who I am.

I am Jim. Some of my friends call me Jimmer.

Trust. Don't let it go......


#48491 - 12/21/04 07:32 AM Re: Trust is NOT gone
TeeJayUU Offline

Registered: 04/30/04
Posts: 312
Loc: MidWest
I have posted this in other places, but...

My Brothers,

There seems to be a lot of confusion, questions, some finger pointing, anger, et cetera, around here of late. There are some uncomfortable postings and situations going on at MaleSurvivor.

However, the overwhelming number of us are here to simply heal, trust, share, and so on. The MS Mods and Board do an OUTSTANDING job of providing a safe environment, a warm and welcoming place to come and heal. I want to thank them for ALL they do for each of us!

I know they are in a difficult situation right now, and for that, I am VERY sorry. I hope and Pray that all of these issues can be worked out in the best possible interest of each person involved.

As much as I would REALLY like to know what is going on here, it really is not my business. What I have read has left me a bit dazed and confused, but again, THANK YOU MS for all you have done for so very many of us!

To all of us Brothers on this most difficult road to healing I Pray for PEACE, FAITH, HOPE, and LOVE!


"There is a plan for me, God has a Purpose, I know there is a reason that I'm ALIVE!" Cherish Grace

#48493 - 12/21/04 01:16 PM Re: Trust is NOT gone
Andrew Offline
Moderator Emeritus

Registered: 07/25/03
Posts: 1192
The forum has been experiencing some difficult times. Issues of trust have been raised. I am saddened that once again someone has had such unhappiness in their life that they have needed to create 'parallel personalities' at MS to feel validated. People have been hurt and are rightfully angry and mistrustful. I am reminded that we are all at very different stages in our recovery. Some have been more deeply damaged, maybe have received less support or had more fragile psyches. But this is still a great place. A place where we CAN and DO find honest, caring fellow survivors. Thank you to the moderators for their vigilance and time, and thank you to all the caring members who have posted and urged calm and temperance during this last couple of days. Peace, Andrew

there is no courage without anxiety


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