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#48087 - 06/30/03 02:56 PM Elo guys
titan Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 06/25/03
Posts: 11
Loc: singapore
Chanced upon this place during one of my many sleepless nights. Thought it was great that a place like this exisit, a place where I can talk and share and not be afraid of stereotyping and judgemental people.

I was abused by my stepfather when I was 11. It was a ongoing nightmare till he left my life when I was 14 or 15.The night before he left he brought some friends over and had fun with me while they watched, and later held me down while his friends had their fun with me.

I sort help with a pastor in the church I was then attending at the age of 17, someone whom I have built a trusting relationship with for 2 years. It backfired. I was once again taken advantage of, and he blamed me for what he did. I decided then that I would never seek help from anyone as I cannot afford to trust anyone, buried the painful memories deep inside and tried to live life as normal as possible.

Things seems to get better. The nightmares that haunted me seems to get lesser, though i can't sleep well all the same, waking up at the slightest noise. Just last week I bumped into my stepdad on the streets. He had the cheeks to approach me and talk to me, acting like nothing has happened and that we were like father and son again. All the while all I could do was stand there like a idiot, not hearing what he said and feeling this tremendous fear that seems to consume me.

The nightmares and flashbacks return. Night after night I make sure I stay awake, and when I fail to, I would wake up soak in my own cold sweat, having that feeling he is in my room once again.....

stopping now... am lost for words.

#48088 - 06/30/03 03:04 PM Re: Elo guys
Mike Church Offline
Moderator Emeritus
Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 3439
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Titan I am sorry for what has brought you to us but am glad that you are hear.

You are having a difficult time right now and you will find a hell of a lot of support here. No judegements, just concern, caring, brotherly affection of the right kind, and helpful hints. Remember you are never alone again. We are all here for each other.

So read, post and join in. It is a rough trail but well worth the hike to living life as it should be done.

A Canuck Brother



#48089 - 06/30/03 03:32 PM Re: Elo guys
The Dean Offline
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Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 2080
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
Titan, welcome. You have suffered such awful betrayal. The betrayal by your pastor just adds to the feeling that no one is safe and all want to abuse you in some way.

You will find here Titan, that we are very safe and no one will abuse you in anyway. You are accepted as a brother here, and we are good brothers, brothers who help each other, receiving as we give.

You sleep problem is something most of us can relate to.
I hope you find a good therapist who can help you with the effects of the betrayal and violations you have endured.

One thing we know for sure--you are a courageous man. Titan is a great nick for you. Only the strongest and the best can endure what we have and still move on in life, or even live at all.

You will be in my thoughts and prayers that you can have good, truly restful sleep really soon. He really cannot harm you anymore Titan. But the memories and flashbacks can be pretty awful. You will need a wise person to help you rise above all of this.


If we do not live what we believe, then we will begin to believe what we live.

#48090 - 06/30/03 04:46 PM Re: Elo guys
ScottyTodd Offline
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Registered: 02/12/03
Posts: 1561
Loc: Pennsylvania
Titan - Sometimes it really is hard to know who to trust...2 years and then BAM! What nerve he has!! Sorry for all that crap but glad you have found us. I agree you would help yourself if you could find a 'good' therapist [our directory has lists or there may be some guys here who live in your area]. You kinda wonder which is worse - night terrors or the fear of night terrors! I do know the guys here are just great in supporting, understanding, sharing what's worked for them... and they will listen to you! You are NOT alone!

I encourage you to join in, share, vent, question or whatever. YOU ARE A SURVIVOR!!!


If you think you can or you can't - you're right!.......anon
It's never too late to have a happy childhood!.....anon
You're very normal for the abnormal situation you've been through..............S. Todd

#48091 - 06/30/03 04:49 PM Re: Elo guys
godsrabbit Offline

Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 98
welcome titan...

i hope you find support and comfort here...there are people who understand and can help...

talk as you feel comfortable to do so...go slow if need be...

#48092 - 06/30/03 09:28 PM Re: Elo guys
titan Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 06/25/03
Posts: 11
Loc: singapore
Thanks for all your kind words. I'm just glad for this place where i can speak up, and not have to hide as if I'm ashame of myself, but very often I still am. I dare not see a therapist. Being in a very "public" job, I would lose my career if I got found out, Not to mention the finger-pointing and gossips that will follow. It's one of those things I'll rather carry with me to my grave.

#48093 - 07/01/03 04:45 AM Re: Elo guys
jwh Offline

Registered: 02/18/01
Posts: 98
Loc: dallas, tx

You are very courageous for posting here.

I understand your wariness about finding a therapist but I hope that eventually you might seek out therapy from someone who specializes in abuse recovery. "Taking it to the grave" is protecting your abusers, not yourself. You were never to blame for being sexually abused. I cannot emphasize that enough. You will hear that over and over again on this site b/c all of us who were sexually abused as children or teens have blamed ourselves in order to try to make sense out of absolutely insane experiences.

For now, I advise checking out Mike Lew's book "Victims No Longer" and Mic Hunter's book: "Abused Boys: The Neglected Victims of Child Sexual Abuse." These are very validating and helpful.

I hope you keep posting here and am glad you have joined us.


"I've been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand... Could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man?"--Ian Curtis, Joy Division

#48094 - 07/01/03 05:18 AM Re: Elo guys
bowman Offline

Registered: 04/19/03
Posts: 72
I'm sorry for what happened to you. It burns me up to hear these storyies over and over again. If you did decide to seek therapy, remember that therapists are legally obliged to keep confidentiality. I don't know what your actual situatiuons is, but the fear of what will happen if anyone finds out is often something that is left over from the origial fear from the abuse, not an actual reflection of actual consequences. BUT, trust yourself and your best judgement. You are the survivor.


#48095 - 07/01/03 05:47 PM Re: Elo guys
Lloydy Offline
Administrator Emeritus
Registered: 04/17/02
Posts: 7071
Loc: England Shropshire
Your story touched me deeply, I was abused - sought help and betrayed. And although my betrayer didn't actually abuse me sexually his betrayal hurts worse than all the things my abusers did.

It's taken me over 30 years to regain trust in other people, and I started with a therapist.

If you are unable to access a therapist then maybe a trusted friend could give you some much needed support. You might be able to do it without actually disclosing 'why' you would like some support.

Failing that, keep coming here.
There's a lot of help and unconditional support here, and we don't keep it all to ourselves.


Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined. As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler.
Henry David Thoreau

#48096 - 07/01/03 06:51 PM Re: Elo guys
titan Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 06/25/03
Posts: 11
Loc: singapore
Thanks once again for the support and advise you guys have shown. I know its hard handling things alone, but its the little bit of control I feel i have left over my life where this....thing is concern. Sure I may not be taking the right and healthy steps to work things out ( like not sleeping for 4 days so I won't get nightmares and stuff) but at least I have some form of control over it, or do I??

Just that sometimes it gets rather overwhelming and I feel the need to vent and breakdown to someone, but thats no one I can or will trust anymore. Which is why I'm grateful to have found this place, the worse is someone stabbing me with words, and that I can endure, though I have no need to thus far because all of you have said nothing but kind words.

But sometimes I really wonder is there a point, to try to work things out. I mean what can i work out from this?? It's happened, nothing;s ever gonna change that. Will I ever feel different? Questions has been popping in my head the past 4 days while I force myself to stay awake. Sure that works 80++ hours of no sleep ensured that I have no nightmares, but those darn questions will not leave me alone. What if I brought on what has happen, like maybe I deserve it or something? My pastor definitely blame me for what he did to me, saying that I ought to have set and enforce my boudaries, yet he did it more than once.... all the while telling me that things will get better. They never did. Maybe I din't deserve to get better.

Fell asleep finally aftter 4 long days. Had so much coffee that i puke, when i felt i couldn't take it, I hit the gym, went swimming to force myself to stay awake a little bit more. I don't remember what happen after I reach home, just that I woke up on my couch, covered in cold sweat. What I could stop when I was awake invaded me in my sleep again. I was so pissed that I slip aftter all those hard work.

A close friend called me out of concern. Said he called me when he bump into me as I was leaving the gym, strange, cause I don't remember it at all, am I going nuts??? Guess I was in my walking zombie mode. Had to make up some stupid excuse and knew he din't bought it. His concern warms me yet pisses me off at the same time. Why? i could not say. Maybe its because I have associated concern with ulterior motives.

Had sleep for a few hours, that should be enough while i keep vigilant again. But knowing I'll fail sooner or later depresses me greatly, but that's the only way I know how to deal with it for the time being. They'll go away, the dreams, they will stop sooner or later, don't they? I just wish I could stop those fucking noises and questions as easily.

Bah enough of my nonsense, Thanks for having the patience to read through the mad ramblings of a 25 year old.

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