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#460724 - 02/14/14 06:05 PM As Gay as...
1lifenow Offline

Registered: 03/07/11
Posts: 437
Loc: west coast
a party hat?
a rainbow valentine?

nope just gay
study just released, the largest even done on male twins show that :being gay is at least partly genetic

likely 30-40% with other factors such as hormonal wash in the uterus and epigenetics also at play. And other factors we are not yet sure of but likely will eventually. What is clear is that CSA or your father not hugging you has nothing to do with it.

So there is nothing to feel ashamed, guilty, or embarrassed about, but there is a lot to be EMBRACED about.

whether we chose to live as a gay man meshing our orientation, our actions and our romantic template into one big purple purposed life is up to us. Having an orientation that is gay is definitely not.

As gay as… me
The need for love lies at the very foundation of human existence. Dalai Lama

WoR Barrie 2011

#460741 - 02/14/14 10:36 PM Re: As Gay as... [Re: 1lifenow]
Ever-fixed Mark Offline

Registered: 01/02/10
Posts: 732
Loc: United States
There has been a significant body of progress establishing the biological basis of sexual orientation. People fixate on the idea of a silver bullet gene that could be switched on and off, but in the research several genes are implicated, genes are pleiotropic, the role of epigenetic factors is just beginning to be explored, and we know that in utero hormone levels affect sexual orientation also.

Here's the Guardian:

Male sexual orientation influenced by genes, study shows

A study of gay men in the US has found fresh evidence that male sexual orientation is influenced by genes. Scientists tested the DNA of 400 gay men and found that genes on at least two chromosomes affected whether a man was gay or straight.

A region of the X chromosome called Xq28 had some impact on men's sexual behaviour – though scientists have no idea which of the many genes in the region are involved, nor how many lie elsewhere in the genome.

Another stretch of DNA on chromosome 8 also played a role in male sexual orientation – though again the precise mechanism is unclear.

Researchers have speculated in the past that genes linked to homosexuality in men may have survived evolution because they happened to make women who carried them more fertile. This may be the case for genes in the Xq28 region, as the X chromosome is passed down to men exclusively from their mothers.

It's settled science that organic sexual attraction is biologically based, all that is happening now is running down the specific factors at play. I love science.

I found this question neatly turned to the more pressing issue:

Rahman [a psychologist at King's College London] rejected the idea that genetics research could be used to discriminate against people on the basis of their sexual orientation. "I don't see how genetics would contribute more to the persecution, discrimination and stigmatisation of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people any more than social, cultural or learning explanations. Historically, the persecution and awful treatment of LGBT groups has been because politicians, religious leaders and societies have viewed sexual orientation as 'choice' or due to poor upbringing."

Steven Rose, of the Open University, said: "What worries me is not the extent, if at all, to which our genetic, epigenetic or neural constitution and development affect our sexual preferences, but the huge moral panic and religious and political agenda which surrounds the question."



Everybody here's got a story to tell
Everybody's been through their own hell
There's nothing too special about getting hurt
Getting over it, that takes the work

- "Duck and Cover" by Glen Phillips

#460767 - 02/15/14 08:25 AM Re: As Gay as... [Re: 1lifenow]
don64 Offline

Registered: 10/09/13
Posts: 1106
Thanks. Growing up in the rural southern u.s. in the 1950's is difficult to recover from. Everything helps. Don
Divine Law is not judgment or denial of self truths. Divine Law is honoring harmony that comes from a peaceful mind, an open heart, a true tongue, a light step, a forgiving nature, and a love of all living creatures. Jamie Sams & David Carson, Medicine Cards

#500194 - 07/21/16 08:35 AM Re: As Gay as... [Re: 1lifenow]
Yury Offline

Registered: 07/20/16
Posts: 2
Hello, For me it is hard to believe that genes have anything to do with homosexuality. When I was a kid and before I was abused by my own father I clearly remember that I liked girls and I even realised what my penis was for. After the abuse took place and after my mother divorced my father, raising me alone, all of that went away...

#500202 - 07/21/16 03:31 PM Re: As Gay as... [Re: 1lifenow]
Chase Eric Offline

Registered: 10/25/10
Posts: 2738
Originally Posted By 1lifenow
likely 30-40% with other factors such as hormonal wash in the uterus

So, I guess you could say I came out in the wash.

#500220 - 07/22/16 01:59 AM Re: As Gay as... [Re: Chase Eric]
kwawk Offline

Registered: 04/13/16
Posts: 23
CE - yeah, i feel you on that. for me, the spin cycle was the worst - lots of turbulence there, and i still keep getting unbalanced...

#500249 - 07/22/16 09:53 PM Re: As Gay as... [Re: 1lifenow]
Sterling Offline

Registered: 10/25/08
Posts: 1820
Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada
I really appreciate this 1lifenow.
I don't feel I fit . Always unsure .
I am not always honest , perhaps in denial.
But I really love this is .



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