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#459659 - 01/29/14 12:44 PM I Give Up
Lancer Offline

Registered: 07/13/12
Posts: 901
Loc: Florida
I debated over the past week whether to even post this. In short, I'm simply inclined to just let the next heart attack take me so I can be done with this perpetual pain. Christ, I don't even have the balls to actually attempt anything. My life, as I look back on it, is a complete failure personally and professionally. And, in my 50s it's too damned late to do anything about it.

Though barely managing last fall and, no, I'm not "over it" - when I lost my feline companion of 16 years, Ricky (last of his "family" going back 26 years), it seems like it started the ball rolling on everything else. I had a heart attack two weeks later, over $50K in hospital bills I can't pay. My career, already struggling, has simply dried up for the most part. I have no financial resources left. Nor is there anyone who is willing to commit to helping me, except for the occasional "kind word", as though that has any substance. No one wants to commit for as long as it takes to help me get back on my feet. Especially when they've already got it made, it's otherwise too much trouble to take on a basket case like me.

Everyone expects me to act normally, as though nothing's wrong. Yeah, I put on the facade. Even my two best friends don't know the depths of my despair. If they did, I'd lose them, too. No one has any idea how much energy it takes just to hang on.

Any so-called help is from bureaucratic little clerks whose only concern is that I fill out forms correctly so they can reject applications for assistance...whether HIV related, mental health related, financially related. Been there. Done that. That includes ACA and premiums I can't afford. I can't take any more of the humiliation. No one fucking cares. Somehow they feel it's my fault. And they're only too happy to scold or patronize me from their safe little pedestals. How does THAT help me?

Oh, I've had little glimmers here and there the past months. But glimmers only. And there's always something that comes along to make sure I'm kept in my place. Car, for one, is gradually dying and I can't fix it.

Though I don't deserve this, the message seems to be that, yes, indeed this is the life I deserve. For some unfathomable reason I deserved to be physically, verbally and emotionally abused by my adopted mother (and third husband). I wish they could have experienced for themselves what they'd so callously done. I deserved to be sexually abused by my high school guidance counselor for his amusement/power trip for almost a year. Sonofabitch died before I could nail him. Then, years later, I deserved to have my pleas for help completely blown off by the school and church...and anyone else within earshot, including an inexperienced T who "fed" me (his words...and illegal in my state) to an osteopath who charged me double what the T had quoted. It's hard to accept I'm that inconsequential to any and everyone, but that's the message drummed into me.

So, screw it. I wish I had the inclination for booze or drugs. I don't. People would probably then be inclined to help. (The "helpers" in my history have been completely mystified I'm so screwed up and NOT an alkie or addict...they can't pigeonhole me). At least I have the cigs to help me along talk about a social leper - and perhaps bring on the next heart attack sooner. Pain's back in my left arm the past couple of weeks. Some pain in my chest. And now that I have the experience to know the signs, I'm not doing a fucking thing about it.

#459660 - 01/29/14 12:53 PM Re: I Give Up [Re: Lancer]
victor-victim Offline

Registered: 09/27/03
Posts: 6387
Loc: 𝒪 𝒦anada
this hurts to read.
you have expressed your pain and despair quite vividly.
i can feel every ounce of it!

i wish to god that i could repair your damage.

failing that, i wish i could give you comfort and support.

it feels as if there is nothing i could possibly write that could do either.
a wink and a wave could not possibly be enough.

all that i can offer is my sincere good will and wishes.
sending you my love as a brother.

i wish to acknowledge and honour your bravery!
my thoughts and prayers are with you.

please accept this desperate attempt to cheer you up.



#459661 - 01/29/14 01:03 PM Re: I Give Up [Re: Lancer]

Registered: 08/31/11
Posts: 3851

Your words are powerful and your pain and hurt can be felt. I am sorry you have having these feelings.

I understand what it feels like to be alone, hopeless but you mentioned there were some glimmers of hope. Grab on to these and one may prove to be a positive that allows you to see the good in yourself. We have been programmed to believe we are worthless and many times society and people around us reinforce these feelings. But the glimmers are what gives us hope for a better tomorrow.

Please seek support, vent and share here--we are here for you and do not judge. Take care of your physical health--see a doctor for the chest pains.

Try to see the positives and I know it is difficult when you feel the world is closing in on you. Please take care of yourself--you have much to offer.


#459670 - 01/29/14 02:25 PM Re: I Give Up [Re: Lancer]
traveler Offline

Registered: 02/07/06
Posts: 4284
Loc: resettling in NE Ohio
Lancer -

i begin this, not knowing what it is i want to say, but wanting to offer some comfort - or at least understanding.

first - i accept and respect your feelings and your right to feel what you do and to express that as you have. i do not want to deny or minimize anything that you have experienced.

second - i am sorry for your pain. i grieve with you. it isn't f-ing fair and that is so true! if there was any way i could help, i would.

third - i wish i could give you hope. i don't know how anyone survives without hope. i don't know why i have always been able to cling to a shred of hope in spite of everything. if there was one thing i could give you - that would be it.

fourth - i value you for the courageous man you are that has created some beauty in the world through your photography and has touched others here on MS through your honesty and humor and transparency - and had made a good life for your cats.

fifth - i hope that this decision can bring you a measure of peace. it is not the conventional way of thinking - but then - you are not a conventional man - in any way! and thank God for that.

i know that this is not enough to make a difference, but i had to say it anyway.

Edited by traveler (01/29/14 02:27 PM)
How long, LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen?
Or cry out to you, “Violence!” but you do not save?
Why do you make me look at injustice?
Why do you tolerate wrongdoing?...
Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails....
Habakkuk 1:2-3

#459696 - 01/29/14 05:42 PM Re: I Give Up [Re: Lancer]
risingagain Offline

Registered: 11/10/10
Posts: 597
Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Don't give up, buddy, there is hope!!!!

If I can live my dreams, so can you.

#459701 - 01/29/14 06:48 PM Re: I Give Up [Re: Lancer]
Czaesar72 Offline

Registered: 04/24/10
Posts: 211
Loc: California, USA

I feel your pain, and I dare to say that a lot of us have been there. There is power in voicing your feelings and that is always good. Many times I have felt like giving up, but I'm still here.

So far I have not given up, because I have learned that there is hope. I know so, and I believe that this is true for all of us. My life is changing now, and I'm glad I have not given up. Hang in there bud, and don't give up. THERE IS HOPE...YOU'RE NOT ALONE.

The best to you.

Edited by Czaesar72 (01/29/14 06:49 PM)
A very grateful Alumni of the Level I WoR Sequoia 2011, Ben Lohmond, CA, USA
and Advanced WoR Alta 2011, Alta, UT, USA.

The strength of a man isn't in the weight he can lift; it is the burdens he can understand and overcome.

#459711 - 01/29/14 08:55 PM Re: I Give Up [Re: Lancer]
Lancer Offline

Registered: 07/13/12
Posts: 901
Loc: Florida
Yeah, wouldn't it be nice if I had a job, a health plan, etc. Golly, I could see a doc, find a qualified T. Screw it. As one jackass T said to me years ago when I shared my pain, "Oh well." (too bad)

Only thing that helped today was that I dumped a client's low-pay advert/promotion project (logo, media kit, program, magazine adverts). Very early on, so won't affect him and I deleted the entire folder. Glad I'm out of it. Too tired to fight any more. Screw advertising. Doesn't matter I've garnered three advertising awards the past seven years, the market wants a youngster - skills optional - who will work for nothing.

Fuck it. I don't see the point.

btw, thx Lee.

#459717 - 01/29/14 10:33 PM Re: I Give Up [Re: Lancer]
justplainme Offline

Registered: 09/01/09
Posts: 472
You have fallen into despair man, i know anything we say will not do a major difference, because frankly...what we experience is not something everyone specially those in the helping profession like to deal with.
The only thing i could say is don't give up, i am sure you want more out of life. Don't quit,this is not the life you deserved,none of us did.
Life is hard, but joy and happiness are your moral obligation.
Fuck, if there is anything we can do to help...don't feel alone.

i like to consider ourselves a community. A band of brothers if you will.

I will put you in my prayers lancer. I believe in the power of prayer. So i hope mine's reach you.

Edited by justplainme (01/29/14 10:35 PM)

"Survivors need an opportunity to define their own sexuality in their own terms, rather than in reaction to the abuse, so that they stop allowing their offenders to have power over them sexually."

#459723 - 01/30/14 12:12 AM Re: I Give Up [Re: Lancer]
Magellan Offline

Registered: 01/01/11
Posts: 1598
Loc: California
I've been here. Feeling hopeless. Just want to throw up your hands in despair and give up. Shit, I had a heart scare and even thought exactly the same thing a few months ago. Meh - if I go, I go. No one else would care.

Do you have any friends around that you can call on or hang out with? I'm sure they'd be hurt to see you go too soon.

Life is challenging for us. It's unfair. We're pushed beyond our perceived limits, only to find out how strong and resilient we are. I have the same question "What for?" If there's a REASON for this, I'd like to know it. But if someone says "Everything happens for a reason!" one more time, I"m going to flatly say "No. Babies dying of AIDS in Africa doesn't happen by some design plan. Because, if it did, that is not a plan or designer I could ever come to trust. Never.

Life is hard and cruel and unjust. The best that we can do is to survive, and to learn how to adapt and live a life that makes us connected and happy. That's an arduous task to undertake, and if given the choice, would prefer to NOT have this experience of hardship. But life is what it is - I can give up on life and on myself, and that is the person I choose to become. Or I can keep schlepping and praying and looking for ways to adapt and make a life that I want and deserve. And keep on trying until my dying breath. That would be a person I could choose to be come too.

The choice seems rather simple - who do I want to be and how do I want to define myself in the face of great hardship?

#459741 - 01/30/14 04:55 AM Re: I Give Up [Re: Lancer]
Jude Offline

Registered: 08/09/12
Posts: 1633
Loc: New England
Lancer Buddy,

Holocaust survivor Elie Weisel wrote: "Hope is ...not a gift from God. It is a gift only we can give one another".

Holocaust victim Anne Frank wrote: "I simply can't build my hopes on a foundation of confusion, misery and death... I think... peace and tranquillity will return again."

John Rucyahana, The Bishop of Rwanda wrote: "We are preaching hope, standing on the bones of the past.

There are millions of people in this world who have suffered unspeakable tragedy. But somehow they have managed to keep hope alive. I can't tell you how they do it, but their words inspire me to take my eyes off my own pain and suffering and stand with them. I hope you will consider their words and join me in that.

I will remember you
Will you remember me?
Don't let your life pass you by
Weep not for the memories
Sarah McLachlan

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