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#45567 - 06/27/03 09:21 PM Re: Seriously beginning to wonder...
The Dean Offline
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Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 2080
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
Eric, you are talking about feelings, and we probably all have times when we feel like it is has been too long with too little success. It is wretched to have those feelings.

Do you have some "tricks" that help you feel better when you are feeling that badly? Being with some kids I adore really helps me when I am down, certain kinds of music at certain times helps, walking in a park. There are a number of them that I have, because some times I find I feel so badly that I might have to use two or three before one of them works.

Thinking about it not being so bad is good. You mentioned that you KNOW what we are saying is correct--but you are talking about feelings, and lots of times, even the best of thoughts just don't work.

My prayer is that you find some feeling thing that will throw a switch and you will begin to feel really much happier and full of life.

Take care.


If we do not live what we believe, then we will begin to believe what we live.

#45568 - 06/27/03 09:43 PM Re: Seriously beginning to wonder...
outis Offline

Registered: 02/27/03
Posts: 2260
Loc: Maryland USA

Bob is right. Feelings don't obey our thoughts, our logic, our commands. It's normal to feel bad over this stuff, and it's normal to get down over working so damn hard for so long.

Please do find something good that you can turn to, even if it's only for a short while. Re-read a favorite old book, pop in a tape of some comedy you've always liked. You don't have to find a "life saver" activity, just something to give you a chance to rest a little while from the worry.

Your work will bear fruit. Believe it, as you would ask one of us to believe it when we get down. Eventually, you will be able to feel it, too.



"Telemachos, your guest is no discredit to you. I wasted no time in stringing the bow, and I did not miss the mark. My strength is yet unbroken…"—The Odyssey, translated by W.H.D. Rouse

#45569 - 06/28/03 05:00 PM Re: Seriously beginning to wonder...
Leosha Offline

Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 3614
Loc: Right here
I read this again and respond at it again. I do not think of you bitching or your shit here. This is place to DO that! Because what one person think of as 'shit', another person see as insight, advice, and something that makes life better. To think of it: if only I were to post here, what the hell do I learn from myself? It is of everyone who says things here that we learn. It is with the sharing of good and bad that we learn. And we can gain strength if we see another who is fighting so hard as you. I wish you good things.

Avatar photo in memory of my younger brother Makar.

"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted."~~~Martin Luther King Jr., 1963

#45570 - 06/29/03 02:35 AM Re: Seriously beginning to wonder...
bowman Offline

Registered: 04/19/03
Posts: 72
Hang in there, my thoughts are with you. Its hard for us survivors to really feel caring from people, so come back and reread the great posts these guys wrote, if that helps.


#45571 - 06/29/03 05:46 PM Re: Seriously beginning to wonder...
Lloydy Offline
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Registered: 04/17/02
Posts: 7071
Loc: England Shropshire
Joe, your jokes are geting worse man !! but don't let that stop you.... ;\) \:D

Leosha, I love the thought of a kid building sandcastles, wonderful image in my mind, thanks.


Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined. As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler.
Henry David Thoreau

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