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#455179 - 11/27/13 04:13 AM the art of expression
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The role of the poet is not to prove, but to affirm
without producing any of the encumbering evidence which he possesses...
In the course of time, the slow discovery of this evidence gives the poet his place as seer.

     ~ Jean Cocteau
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#455541 - 11/30/13 06:33 AM Ernest Fenollosa [Re: victor-victim]
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Only scholars and poets feel painfully back along the thread of our etymologies
and piece together our diction, as best they may,
from forgotten fragments.

~ Ernest Fenollosa

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#455722 - 12/01/13 04:36 PM Re: Ernest Fenollosa [Re: victor-victim]
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GOOD GOD !!!!

Where do you find all this great stuff?!

Keep digging it up my friend ...

I love it.

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#455777 - 12/02/13 08:04 AM jose marti [Re: Shyshark]
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A grain of poetry suffices to season a century.
     ~ Jose Marti
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#455778 - 12/02/13 08:05 AM shelley lenin plato bach [Re: Shyshark]
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Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world.
     ~ Percy Shelley

Artists are the engineers of the soul.
     ~ Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov  (Lenin)

Musical innovation is full of danger to the state,
for when modes of music change, the laws of the state always change with them.

     ~ Plato

All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
     ~ Johann Sebastian Bach
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#455779 - 12/02/13 08:06 AM john cage john keats samuel clemens [Re: Shyshark]
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I have nothing to say,
and I am saying it.
And that is poetry.

     ~ John Cage

Better to be silent
and thought a fool
than speak and remove all doubt.

     ~ Victor Koman

Noise proves nothing.
Often a hen who has merely laid an egg,
cackles as if she had laid an asteroid.

     ~ Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain)

Heard melodies are sweet,
but those unheard are sweeter.

     ~ John Keats

Talking about music is like dancing about architecture.
     ~ Martin Mull

Music is after silence that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible.
     ~ Aldous Huxley

Music expresses that which can not be said and on which it is impossible to be silent.
     ~ Victor Hugo

Music depicts time through the images of sound.
     ~ David Burliuk
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#456031 - 12/04/13 04:12 PM richard trench [Re: victor-victim]
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Words convey the mental treasures of one period to the generations that follow;
and laden with this, their precious freight,
they sail safely across gulfs of time in which empires have suffered shipwreck.

     ~ Richard Trench
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#457076 - 12/19/13 03:02 PM Rudyard Kipling [Re: victor-victim]
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Words are the most powerful drug used by mankind.
     ~ Rudyard Kipling
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#457077 - 12/19/13 04:22 PM Rabbi Moshe Leib [Re: victor-victim]
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It is a known fact that words that come from the heart enter the heart.
     ~ Rabbi Moshe Leib
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#457078 - 12/19/13 04:27 PM samuel butler - arthur koestler [Re: victor-victim]
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Oaths are but words, and words but wind.
     ~ Samuel Butler


Words are so much air, but air will be wind and make ships sail.
     ~ Arthur Koestler
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#457079 - 12/19/13 04:32 PM Samuel Delaney [Re: victor-victim]
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If you reach a conclusion validly,
you don't store all the work notes and doodles you've amassed on the way.
Those are just the things conclusions are there to dispense with.

     ~ Samuel R. Delaney
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#457080 - 12/19/13 04:34 PM William Osler [Re: victor-victim]
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One should never spoil a good theory by explaining it.
     ~ Sir William Osler
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#457169 - 12/21/13 03:20 AM carl jung [Re: victor-victim]
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Words are animals, alive with a will of their own.
     ~ Carl Jung

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#457172 - 12/21/13 06:56 AM Charles Lutwidge Dodgson [Re: victor-victim]
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"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, "it means just what I choose it to meanneither more nor less."
"The question is,"
said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is,"
said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be masterthat's all."

     ~ Charles Lutwidge Dodgson
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#457173 - 12/21/13 07:02 AM Ernesto Che Guevara Serna [Re: victor-victim]
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Words that do not match deeds are unimportant.
     ~ Ernesto Che Guevara Serna
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#459890 - 02/01/14 05:27 AM Georg Philipp Friedrich Freiherr [Re: victor-victim]
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Poetry heals the wounds inflicted by reason.
     ~ Georg Philipp Friedrich Freiherr (Novalis)
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#461681 - 02/28/14 12:08 AM Robert Frost [Re: victor-victim]
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A poem begins in delight and ends in wisdom.
     ~ Robert Frost
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#461682 - 02/28/14 12:12 AM Aristotle [Re: victor-victim]
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Poetry is something more philosophic and of graver import than history, since its statements are of the nature rather of universals, whereas those of history are singulars.
     ~ Aristotle
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#474729 - 01/08/15 09:13 PM Re: percy shelley [Re: victor-victim]
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Poetry is a sword of lightning, ever unsheathed, which consumes the scabbard that would contain it.
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#475147 - 01/14/15 11:45 PM Umberto Eco [Re: victor-victim]
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All poets write bad poetry.
Bad poets publish them, good poets burn them.

     ~ Umberto Eco

A poet should be so crafty with words that he is envied even for his pains.
     ~ Criss Jami
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#475148 - 01/15/15 12:01 AM Socrates [Re: victor-victim]
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If a man comes to the door of poetry untouched by the madness of the Muses,
believing that technique alone will make him a good poet,
he and his sane compositions never reach perfection,
but are utterly eclipsed by the performances of the inspired madman.

     ~ Socrates

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#475152 - 01/15/15 12:31 AM Wystan Auden [Re: victor-victim]
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Poetry might be defined as the clear expression of mixed feelings.
     ~ W.H. Auden

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#475304 - 01/17/15 02:17 AM Mary Oliver [Re: victor-victim]
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For poems are not words, after all,
but fires for the cold,
ropes let down to the lost,
something as necessary as bread
in the pockets of the hungry.

     ~ Mary Oliver
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#475312 - 01/17/15 04:09 AM Robert Frost [Re: victor-victim]
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The right reader of a good poem can tell the moment it strikes him that he has taken an immortal wound that he will never get over it.
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#475670 - 01/21/15 03:41 AM nietzsche proust [Re: Shyshark]
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Think of the coercion every language has employed in achieving its strength and freedom:
the compulsion of meter, the tyranny of rhyme and rhythm.
Look at how much trouble the poets and orators of every country have to go through
.

     ~ Friedrich Nietzsche


To extract from the restriction itself a further delicate thought,
like good poets whom the tyranny of rhyme forces into the discovery of their finest lines
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     ~ Marcel Proust
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#476625 - 02/05/15 06:02 AM Edward Hirsch [Re: victor-victim]
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Language is an impure medium. Speech is public property and words are the soiled products, not of nature, but of society, which circulates and uses them for a thousand different ends.
     ~ Edward Hirsch

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#476906 - 02/10/15 07:12 AM Bertrand Russell / John Saxon [Re: victor-victim]
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The true spirit of delight, the exaltation, the sense of being more than Man, which is the touchstone of the highest excellence, is to be found in mathematics as surely as in poetry.
     ~ Bertrand Russell

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A math poem by John Saxon:

((12 + 144 + 20 + (3 * 4^(1/2))) / 7)

+ (5 * 11) = 9^2 + 0


or in English:

A Dozen, a Gross and a Score,
plus three times the square root of four,
divided by seven,
plus five times eleven,
equals nine squared and not a bit more.
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#476981 - 02/11/15 05:07 AM Kahlil Gibran [Re: victor-victim]
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I long for eternity because there I shall meet my unwritten poems and my unpainted pictures.
     ~ Kahlil Gibran
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#477079 - 02/12/15 05:57 PM Audre Lorde [Re: victor-victim]
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Poetry is not only dream and vision; it is the skeleton architecture of our lives.
It lays the foundations for a future of change, a bridge across our fears of what has never been before.

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#477400 - 02/17/15 04:39 AM Erica Jong [Re: victor-victim]
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All poetry from the beginning is about Eros and Thanatos.
Those are the only subjects.

     ~ Erica Jong


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#477853 - 02/23/15 10:39 PM Norman O. Brown [Re: victor-victim]
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Freedom is poetry, taking liberties with words, breaking the rules of normal speech, violating common sense.
     ~ Norman O. Brown


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#479575 - 03/23/15 04:37 AM Irving Stone [Re: victor-victim]
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Each of us has his own alphabet with which to create poetry.
     ~ Irving Stone

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#479577 - 03/23/15 04:41 AM Lipman Bers [Re: victor-victim]
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Mathematics is very much like poetry.
What makes a good poem - a great poem - is that there is a large amount of thought expressed in very few words.
In this sense formulas like      or      are poems.

     ~ Lipman Bers


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#480352 - 04/05/15 04:27 PM J.D.Salinger [Re: victor-victim]
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Many, many men have been just as troubled morally and spiritually as you are right now. Happily, some of them kept records of their troubles. You'll learn from them - if you want to. Just as some day, if you have something to offer, someone will learn something from you. It's a beautiful reciprocal arrangement. And it isn't education. It's history. It's poetry.
     ~ J. D. Salinger


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#480433 - 04/07/15 09:09 PM Walter Lippmann [Re: victor-victim]
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It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf.
     ~ Walter Lippmann
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#480457 - 04/08/15 11:24 AM Leopold Staff [Re: victor-victim]
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For poems are not words, after all,
but fires for the cold,
ropes let down to the lost,
something as necessary as bread
in the pockets of the hungry.

     ~ Mary Oliver



Even more than bread we now need poetry, in a time when it seems that it is not needed at all.
     ~ Leopold Staff

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#480670 - 04/13/15 01:55 AM Koyamparambath Satchidanandan [Re: victor-victim]
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Poets must be left to explore and write what they see, what they feel. It must come from within. It can be on anything, poetry must not be dictated. It can never be called poetry then.
     ~ Koyamparambath Satchidanandan


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#480768 - 04/15/15 02:05 AM Bertolt Brecht [Re: victor-victim]
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If art reflects life, it does so with special mirrors.
     ~ Bertolt Brecht


Poem by Brecht...
The Mask of Evil
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#480769 - 04/15/15 02:38 AM David Bowie [Re: victor-victim]
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All art is unstable.
Its meaning is not necessarily that implied by the author.
There is no authoritative voice.
There are only multiple readings.

     ~ David Bowie
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#480772 - 04/15/15 03:50 AM Trotsky [Re: victor-victim]
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Art, it is said, is not a mirror, but a hammer: it does not reflect, it shapes.
     ~ Lev Davidovich Bronstein


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#480917 - 04/17/15 10:03 PM Joseph Campbell [Re: victor-victim]
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Just as anyone who listens to the muse will hear, you can write out of your own intention or out of inspiration.
     ~ Joseph Campbell

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#487132 - 08/17/15 06:07 AM Pablo Picasso [Re: victor-victim]
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Art is the lie that tells the truth.
     ~ Pablo Picasso
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#488438 - 09/13/15 05:03 AM Allan F. Wilson [Re: victor-victim]
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But, oh! Tis hard upon a bard who sits him down to write,
To have his playful fancies thus disturbed and put to flight.

     ~ Allan F. Wilson

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#489391 - 10/03/15 05:18 PM Henry David Thoreau [Re: victor-victim]
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No definition of poetry is adequate unless it be poetry itself.
     ~ Henry David Thoreau
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#489395 - 10/03/15 06:59 PM Vanna Bonta [Re: victor-victim]
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A poet's first contract is with truth.
     ~ Vanna Bonta

Harmony, rhythm, concision, concinnity are all elements that are epitomized in poetry. Cultivated in poetry, which is the nucleus of the creative impulse, these elements serve every art form.
     ~ Vanna Bonta

The true poem rests between the words.
     ~ Vanna Bonta

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#489396 - 10/03/15 07:38 PM Pythagoras of Samos [Re: victor-victim]
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There is geometry in the humming of the strings, there is music in the spacing of the spheres.
     ~ Pythagoras

There is no word or action but has its echo in Eternity.
     ~ Pythagoras
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#489402 - 10/04/15 12:29 AM Re: Henry David Thoreau [Re: victor-victim]
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#489598 - 10/07/15 06:33 AM Re: the art of expression [Re: victor-victim]
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#494459 - 01/24/16 09:34 PM Karl Wilhelm Friedrich von Schlegel [Re: victor-victim]
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Philosophy always begins in the middle, like an epic poem.
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#495133 - 02/07/16 07:22 PM Re: the art of expression [Re: victor-victim]
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"The word should be like butter or avocado or steak or hot biscuits, or onion rings or whatever is really needed, it should be almost as if you could pick up the words and eat them."
~ Charles Bukowski

Poetry is what happens when nothing else can.

~ Charles Bukowski
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