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#433201 - 05/01/13 08:13 PM Fake Personality *Few Triggers*
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Edited by concerned_husky (08/30/15 06:07 AM)
Edit Reason: Reducing ties with MS.
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#433202 - 05/01/13 08:34 PM Re: Fake Personality *Few Triggers* [Re: concerned_husky]
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Hi Husky, thanks for the post as so much of it connects with me, and I often feel the same way. I think I'm learning now that what I thought was fake, was and is, the real me trying to rise up inside. I think our efforts at goodness really are good because I think they come from the heart. It is something "they" could not take from me in spite of all the bade things they did to me...I held on to it. That is part of my innocence they could not corrupt.

What's different now? Now I no longer believe the lies of the perps about all of it, like I was made for that and it was the only thing I would ever be good for. Wrong, and lies. So with that new knowledge, I can become the new me and the good parts, or what I thought was my fake personality, will still shine and maybe even brighter now. It's my nature (like you) to try to please others and I'm ok with that. I'm no longer ok letting others define what it takes to please them, if that is going to hurt me. Instead I'll find people who value me for who I am, and not just as an object. With that, the good things in me will be appreciated and I won't see that as fake anymore.

I have talked enough with you to know you are a good person, and those things in you are not fake. You have helped me a lot and your light shines brother. Know that I don't see you as anything other then a good person, and someone who has a whole lot to offer the world!
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#433203 - 05/01/13 08:52 PM Re: Fake Personality *Few Triggers* [Re: concerned_husky]
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i don't know you, but i agree with buffaloCO.

please don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

this "fake personality" may be more real than you think.

i have the same skill with strangers.
no doubt it developed as some sort of survival technique or defense mechanism.
i can start a group discussion anywhere...
bus, elevator, waiting room...

don't lose it or abuse it.
use it for the power of good!
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#433206 - 05/01/13 09:48 PM Re: Fake Personality *Few Triggers* [Re: concerned_husky]
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fwiw, I'll take a middle ground husky. Same engaging personality. Quick wit, which sometimes completely throws off people who are only semi-engaged in the conversation. (As my Marvin avatar would say, "brain the size of a planet").

I particularly identified with the "pleasing" part. And I can trace that back to the mommybitch's second marriage. As a five-year-old, for all I knew Dad had disappeared, a new step-father had entered the picture, moved us out of state and I wanted to please everyone (perhaps because on some level I might have felt responsible for Dad's disappearance).

Go figure, too, that part of my broadcast training was to refine my ability to engage people. And I do it very well. I can draw out people, speak to anybody about anything, and find a common ground for conversation. It's second nature. What it's taken me years and years to realize is that behavior is sometimes an indication to others that I'm a pushover and they act accordingly. It's been a hard realization and a difficult one to overcome.

Part of it, too, involved my inability to say "no" lest I offend. More often than not today, and it's taken practice, I have little problem saying it...or just walking away.

It's still a conscious decision (and effort) for me to dial down the charm in everyday encounters. It's no longer automatic. I haven't lost the ability to engage and I do when I've determined it's safe to do so. I agree with victor on not throwing out the baby with the bath water.

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#433214 - 05/01/13 10:18 PM Re: Fake Personality *Few Triggers* [Re: concerned_husky]
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Edited by concerned_husky (08/30/15 06:07 AM)
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#433218 - 05/01/13 10:41 PM Re: Fake Personality *Few Triggers* [Re: concerned_husky]
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Originally Posted By: Concerned Husky Woof!
What the fake personality has done, though, is that its left me defenseless. Being constantly pulled to please others has gotten me into contact with shitty people who would never think twice of hurting me, betraying me or manipulating and taking advantage of me. And now Im just tired of this fake personality.

This is precisely what I have been dealing with that I have come to realize only lately. I have always been a little charmer (just look at my avatars - I'm always mugging for the camera or smiling). With me it's not fake - I just tend to bubble and bounce, always have. My dad used to call me a super ball - the harder you slammed me to the ground, the higher I'd come right back up. I used to think it was an asset. But it attracted the older boy who made me have sex with him. And I have recently discovered after meeting him (another post here) that he was likely NOT abused himself. WTF! I thought I was abused just because I was an easy target for a guy who had abuse issues himself. Now I am realizing that it was more likely a strong sexual attraction from a pedophile who had absolute lack of appropriate self-control. My personality has attracted all kinds of abuse - not just from him. And not just sexual. Bubbly and attractive personalities attract sociopaths. Professionally. Socially. That's what I am just realizing now. Took me long enough to figure it out.

I have no intention - and likely no true capability - to change. But my eyes are wide open, now. I'll keep you (the general "you" - not you specifically) at arm's length - nicely - before I trust you to get close enough to hurt me. Never again. If I knew that at 12, I wonder if I'd even be here at MS.
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#433219 - 05/01/13 10:51 PM Re: Fake Personality *Few Triggers* [Re: concerned_husky]
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When I was in college, my roommates started making fun of me because of the voice I used on the telephone when my parents would call me. It was like I put on a different personality, and the voice had a sing-song quality that my roommates mocked mercilessly.

Which is to say, I was cured of it pretty quickly. But since you mention it, I believe that I, too, had set up a certain bubbly personality as a defense mechanism to deal with my parents.

So you're not alone.

As for which sort of personality you're becoming, I think you're exactly right. It's not either/or, but rather a synthesis of them. Not just the good parts of each without the bad parts, but somehow stronger than before.

Your mother was a monster. I've been meaning to tell you for some time that I'm glad you're here. You're a good contributor.

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#433220 - 05/01/13 11:00 PM Re: Fake Personality *Few Triggers* [Re: concerned_husky]
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Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: concerned_husky
I have to admit, this fake personality was my way of dealing with all this crap that went on.....I think Im going to start reverting back to my old personality......I want to be more selfish.

Hey Huskey,

Fake personality. Man do I ever get it. It was a way of dealing with all the crap, keeping up the facade, hiding my secrets. If people knew who I really was, they would hate me. But no,"Hey people, everythings just great with me! Life of the party". What a load of bull.

Reverting to an old personality isn't neccesarily the best option either. Not if that old personality isn't really who you are today. Part of this recovery stuff is finding out who we are now, in the present. And then building from there.

Being selfish is entirely in order if it means taking care of yourself and not always putting other people's needs ahead of yourself and your recovery. We have to believe that we deserve a decent life, and be prepared to do whatever it takes to get there.

Jude
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#433228 - 05/02/13 12:14 AM Re: Fake Personality *Few Triggers* [Re: concerned_husky]
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POW! Jude, you and husky just laid me out flat..."being selfish is entirely in order." Sometimes I hear things a different way for the first time. What I take from that is the ability to trust myself enough to be honest (particularly with myself) when I engage people and respond accordingly...in the moment.

Not to hijack...Several months ago I did a shoot for a couple of real estate agents, one a friend. We're all gay. When we did the almost-requisite gay hugs goodbye - I'm in a gayborhood - his friend took it as license to grab my ass. I was completely stunned, triggered, you name it. I was able to give him The Look Of Death and say just loud enough to embarrass him, "Don't you EVER do that again." Newer behavior for me. I think in the past I would have given him a playful finger-wagging. No fucking more, Older Dude!

In short guys, thanks for the refresher.

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#433230 - 05/02/13 12:24 AM Re: Fake Personality *Few Triggers* [Re: Lancer]
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Well, I'm in this boat too.

I think the problem for me was that abuse, early and then severe abuse, made me hate who I really was...Hate the real me, whoever he is or was. So I have to generate some kind of a cheap imitation just to get along. So, I think I'm slowly finding myself. There's a book, Dibs In Search of Self. The boy was put into a counseling at a young age. By being accepted by the T, and slowly nurtured, he blossomed and the result is that beautiful book.

Today I went to a therapy session. The matter to be dealt with was that when I go to bed at night, I "switch" to an alter. I become a little boy, lying there in bed...So is that the real me? Whoever he is, please step forward. He is so shy and he really can't express himself.

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