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#420119 - 12/26/12 05:18 AM 1200 New Boy Scout Files fr LA Times
Lancer Offline

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Caveat: you'll have to open it with Firefox or Chrome:

#420146 - 12/26/12 03:34 PM Re: 1200 New Boy Scout Files fr LA Times [Re: Lancer]
peroperic2009 Offline

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I wonder what should be penalty for covering such scale of abuse and how many victims could be saved if people were protecting children instead of covering perps frown
My story

#420174 - 12/26/12 08:32 PM Re: 1200 New Boy Scout Files fr LA Times [Re: Lancer]
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Thanks for sharing this Lancer. We posted this to the MS FB page earlier. I believe it is also vital for people to be mindful that looking through this information can be destabilizing for some people. For example, I discovered the name of someone affiliated with the troop I was a member of as a child in the files. This was not the man who abused me (to the best of my recollection), but simply knowing that I was surrounded by pederasts at that time is itself hard for me to make sense of.

This is the information I posted when I shared the link on the FB page. I think it's also good to share in this thread.


The following link (and image) is from the LA Times created database of allegations of abuse and the records of the recently released Ineligible Volunteer files. The image itself is a stark vision of how great the threat to boys and young men was.

We strongly support transparency and openness, as abuse thrives on secrecy and silence. However it is vital that survivors themselves understand that the information contained in these files can be triggering, emotionally powerful, and may bring memories back to the surface.

Survivors need to be aware that searching through these files can raise many complex emotions and reactions. MaleSurvivor strongly recommends that people reach out to their therapists for support before doing any in depth review of this information.
Please note, as of September 2016 I am no longer Executive Director. However due to a bug in UBB software that is still unresolved this label can't be removed.

#420197 - 12/27/12 03:22 AM Re: 1200 New Boy Scout Files fr LA Times [Re: peroperic2009]
MrEdd Offline

Registered: 01/24/03
Posts: 341
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: peroperic2009
I wonder what should be penalty for covering such scale of abuse and how many victims could be saved if people were protecting children instead of covering perps frown

Any penalties levied in this case should properly be leveled against the legal profession as a whole (and I do mean every member of the Bar during the period) especially the judiciary. During this time period, the existence of such a "Hearsay" list of unproven charges likely put the Boy scouts at great risk legally- should news of its existence been leaked out and anyone who could not be proven a perp in a court of law sued the Boy Scouts.

The law was definitely on the side of predators, and it is easy at this point to forget just how great the strides are that have been made to protect children in the last twenty years.

I remember when the Vampire Theory was pretty much accepted as fact, and when most allegations against adult perps were presumed by the public to be spurious even if a conviction were obtained. Those last things have not entirely faded away, but they have become less ubiquitous than before.

It is sad that the Boy Scouts did not do more. Certainly in my local troop some of the larger boys preyed upon many of us smaller ones when opportunity arose (not me personally - but some of the johns I had later).

It is only fair to point out however, that the steps they took put them in jeopards at the time they took them. Look at the schools for an example of what was done (or rather NOT DONE)in nearly every other venue.

Edited by MrEdd (12/27/12 03:24 AM)
Edit Reason: PTSD Spelling
Some Things are not problems to be solved, rather, they are facts which must be coped with over time.


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