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#374499 - 11/07/11 01:22 AM On topic of Penn State: They need a law!?!!
SamV Offline

Registered: 12/13/09
Posts: 5971
Loc: Sunnny, South East USA

I find it revolting that one who has knowledge of a sex crime needs to be threatened with discipline in order to do the "humane" things and tell the authorities. This should be everyone's right and responsibility.

Show me the human that can see an atrocity and turn away for money or position, and I will show you a weak and fearful person. The courts should not wrangle about the legal position of reporting but about the justice gone lacking for those with prior knowledge did not protect the innocent, they should be trying these men as accomplices.

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#374548 - 11/07/11 03:11 PM Re: On topic of Penn State: They need a law!?!! [Re: SamV]
GoodHope Offline

Registered: 07/05/11
Posts: 428
I, too think it's sad we need a law.

I do not understand why people are unwilling or incapable of imagining themselves in the position of the person with the least power and behaving according to how they would want to be treated if it were them.

So in this case, the kid has the least power. So that assistant told immediately, but he didn't follow up (read he is a full time assistant there now). If he was that child, wouldn't he have wanted the one person who saw it to help him in every possible way? Not just the chain of command, but above and beyond?

Even outside of sexual abuse, this exercise has merit. Look at it from someone else's perspective, what is right becomes much clearer.

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#374563 - 11/07/11 06:54 PM Re: On topic of Penn State: They need a law!?!! [Re: GoodHope]

Registered: 08/31/11
Posts: 3749
It is disgusting, people are more concerned with Paterno's reputation-how about the lives that were destroyed by the perpetrator, Sandusky, and all who were in the know of inappropriate acts--the children should be the focus--making sure they get the right support and therapy. Screw Paterno's reputation, he has had a life, what life will the children have?

#374583 - 11/07/11 10:26 PM Re: On topic of Penn State: They need a law!?!! [Re: KMCINVA]
EGL Offline
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Registered: 06/19/04
Posts: 7821
The thing that haunts me most about this thing is that the abuser and the kid both saw the eye-witness as he stumbled upon them. The eye-witness simply left. The kid, for a moment, must have thought "Someone is here to save me." But they weren't. Tragic.


#374605 - 11/08/11 02:50 AM Re: On topic of Penn State: They need a law!?!! [Re: EGL]
Disappointed Offline

Registered: 08/11/09
Posts: 541
Loc: U.S.A.
I'm with you, Eddie. The child must have thought he would be saved. Making matters even worse, since the witness didn't stop it, the child probably took it to mean, this was all "okay," and never thought again he would be able to get help.

Ten years old, versus a twenty-something grad student that didn't have any guts.



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