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#327584 - 04/07/10 02:53 AM Moving soon
atari_kid86 Offline
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Registered: 02/24/10
Posts: 142
Loc: Michigan
There's something inherently stressful and yet so invigorating for me about moving. It always feels like a new start, a new chapter in the story of my life. This month I'm moving out of state for the first time. Should be fun!

I'd like to hear some of your moving stories. Everyone's probably got one!


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#327605 - 04/07/10 05:29 AM Re: Moving soon [Re: atari_kid86]
Trucker51 Offline
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Registered: 05/21/08
Posts: 2826
Loc: Denver, CO
At one time I was the King of moving, before my success in my recovery I used to move every few months on average, the geographical cure was a big part of my drug-abuse recovery strategy for many years. Just runaway and leave those problems behind, though it never worked-out as well as I had hoped for. As an adult (starting at age 18 in suburban Detroit in 1975), I had moved 22 times by the time that my first wife and I bought our first house in Cleveland in 1988, and had lived in 3 different States. After living there for 3 years, I returned to Colorado, and 7 moves later I managed to hang onto a 1-bedroom rental apartment for another 2 & 1/2 years, which ended with my first trip to Hazelden in August of 1996. After my first trip to MN ended with unsuccess, I drifted from cheap motel to crash pad in the worst part of town, never living anywhere longer than a couple of months, never worried about anything other than where my next crack hit was coming from. I returned to Hazelden in October of 1997, then stayed-on in MN for a little over two years, where I only lived in 3 places. Since returning to Colorado in January of 2000, I have only lived in 3 different places, two of which I have owned. I bought my current house after making close to $25K flipping my first place, and have now lived here for 7 & 1/2 years, the longest that I have ever lived anywhere as an adult, and the 2nd longest that I have ever lived anywhere to my parent's house between age 8 and 18.

Hopefully you are moving for the right reasons, and not to try to escape from your past or its problems. The geographical cure has a very poor track record. Certainly, some people have done well after leaving economic hardship behind, though it really took me successfully dealing with my issues before I was ready to make the best of one last new economic circumstance. I left Birmingham, MI during the 1982 recession and Cleveland during the 1990-91 recession, after loosing everything that I owned both times. My depression, unresolved issues, and my drug problem cost me everything that I owned in 1996 and 1997 despite a healthy economy. With my issues largely resolved, and with local support already set-up and in place in Colorado in 2000, I was then ready to make the best of hopefully the last chance at starting over that I'll ever need.

It is always a challenge to decide what we take with us when we move, and what stays behind. One time I helped move a close friend of mine across town, and before we left we carried his old couch out to the dumpster. 25 miles later, pulling into his new apartment complex, I pointed-out a nice-looking couch sitting next to the dumpster there, and said "there is your new couch, Doug", and he still has it to this day!!! If you are a packrat moving can be traumatic, on the other hand some people almost completely start-over when they move, and take very little of their past with them. The last time that I moved it took 3 men and a 24-foot truck all day to make a 1/2 mile move, from my condo to my new house. Hopefully that will be my last move for a while, as I still haven't found everything from that last move 7 & 1/2 years later!!!

Good luck on your move, hope that the economy is a little better wherever you end up. Keep on fighting the good fight, hope that you get to enjoy a little more stability than I once did. Recovery is possible and the rewards are great, one of the rewards is staying in the same place for a while.

Mark



Edited by Trucker51 (04/07/10 05:32 AM)
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#327613 - 04/07/10 09:45 AM Re: Moving soon [Re: Trucker51]
atari_kid86 Offline
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Registered: 02/24/10
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Loc: Michigan
The economy is actually very poor where I am moving to (Michigan), but I'm not moving too far. I'll be within commuting distance of my current job in Indiana.

My girlfriend and I are taking the next step in our relationship and are getting our own apartment together. We needed a place that would split the commuting distance between us because originally we've lived close to hour apart. Given this areas lake effect snow messes, commuting that far daily would be just awful. So we found a little town right in the middle.

I moved several years back to escape my problems. I knew at age 18 that I had to get the hell out of my parents house. My perp was still living there and I knew I had to break free from his tyranny. I moved four hours north with hardly a word to him about it.

That move itself was very eventful. I recall it being one of the coldest February's on record for Northern Indiana. Wind chills were around -30 and everyday it'd snow close to 6 inches. I learned that moving in the winter really sucks and haven't done it since.


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#327627 - 04/07/10 03:49 PM Re: Moving soon [Re: atari_kid86]
Charlie24 Offline


Registered: 09/28/08
Posts: 562
Hi atarikid I moved from MI to AZ. I had to get out of my hometown and away from my perp. Just had to get out of the area, just too small minded, too much gossipy for me. At first I didn't really like Arizona but the more I've lived here the more I fell in love.

I remember May 2006 packing up my little pick up truck with everyone that I thought I was gonna need to start a new down here and the drive and getting here and just ready to start over, so to speak. It's been very rewarding for me to live on my own, I've grown up and matured and finally know how to take care of myself. The best part of it all, I don't have parents or family members breathing down my neck.

That sounds like you've made a wise decision to find a more centralized location for you and your girlfriend.

I see this for you as a step in the right direction for bettering not only your life but the life of your girlfriend as well as progress in your recovery.

Charlie.


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#327642 - 04/07/10 06:10 PM Re: Moving soon [Re: Charlie24]
Castle Offline


Registered: 10/03/09
Posts: 758
I hate moving, but think about it often.

for another time maybe...

But one of my better moving stories, is spotting an oil leak on a u-hual, AFTER, we loaded it up.

They offered us another truck, but no way we were going to unoad and relaod ect (cost and time table)

They gave us a case of oil, we stopped at every rest stop betweeen Boston and NY and added a quart. We still laugh about it.

The more you move, the more you hire moving men.

Our next move, somebody else is packing the house.

Hope it works out well for you.

Safe travels!

Castle

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#327648 - 04/07/10 08:16 PM Re: Moving soon [Re: Castle]
Trucker51 Offline
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Registered: 05/21/08
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Loc: Denver, CO
I'm quite familiar with southern Michigan and northern Indiana, I've driven a semi all across that area for most of the last 12 years, between Chicago and Detroit, the cities all across I-96 to Muskegon and back down to Benton Harbor too. I lived 25 years in NW suburban Detroit near Pontiac and another 9 years around Cleveland and its suburbs, where I drove semis out of back in the 1980s too. I even attended Western Michigan University for 3 semesters back in 1976-77, and after dropping-out I had a job at some little factory in Vicksburg, MI for a few months. The 1982 recession did me in and that is when I quit living in Michigan, I still have lots of friends there, my 35th-year high school reunion is there this Summer.

I know full well how bad the economy is there, hope that your employment situation is stable, you could definitely get lower than market average rent in Michigan these days, you could probably buy a house there for $25K, but who would you sell it to later when you want to move on? There is a bunch of inexpensive lakefront property in Michigan these days, maybe just hang onto it as vacation property if you have to move later. Hope that your move to Michigan goes well,

Mark

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#327649 - 04/07/10 08:23 PM Re: Moving soon [Re: Trucker51]
atari_kid86 Offline
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Registered: 02/24/10
Posts: 142
Loc: Michigan
Rent is VERY cheap. Our new apartment is a two bedroom that cost around 430 a month compared to the 485 I pay for my one bedroom and the 585 she pays for hers.

I look forward to moving to Michigan. It's such a beautiful place that's just been really down on its luck. It makes me sad to see it struggle as it does.

Cash-wise we should be breathing easier.

To Castle; An oil leak on a U-haul? Wow, what a pain in the butt that must have been. Was it a big leak?


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#327659 - 04/07/10 10:19 PM Re: Moving soon [Re: atari_kid86]
Trucker51 Offline
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Registered: 05/21/08
Posts: 2826
Loc: Denver, CO
One time back in 1990 I was driving a semi for a small company out of Cleveland, and I was up in Detroit when the water pump went out. Instead of getting it fixed on the road, they just had me drive it back to Cleveland instead, it leaked 2 gallons of water out every 40 miles or so. I got a bunch of empty washer fluid jugs out of the trash at the truckstop, filled them full of water, and I did make it home that night. Another time at another truckline the clutch went out on my truck 30 miles from the yard, so I drove it back without the clutch, though at red lights I had to shut it off in gear to stop, then use the starter to get going again when the light turned green. Somehow I made it back. In fact I must have had to figure-out how to drive a broken truck 100 times in my career. Gas pedal get stuck??? Just drive it until you can find a good place to pull over, then kick it into neutral and pull over and fix it!!! Trailer wheel bearing seal go out when it was -10F out??? Get a bunch of dirty old shop rags, soak them in motor oil, then stuff them into the hole!!! That worked for 100 miles to reach a 24-hour shop once. Would you believe that enough duct tape could fix an air line??? Believe it, it happened, more than once. Duct tape can fix almost anything, kind of like Cialis!!!

Or is that "Cialis can fix anything, kind of like duct tape???"



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#327660 - 04/07/10 10:27 PM Re: Moving soon [Re: Trucker51]
Survivinguy Offline
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Registered: 01/22/09
Posts: 318
Loc: Colorado
I used to love moving now I'm hopeful to stay in our current house for another fifteen years (till the kids grad high school).

I moved from MO to CO back to MO then to OH and back to CO smile Hmmmmm I should probably try a state without an O at some point.

Worst experience was the trip from OH to CO during a major blizzard in KS - no visibility, semis and cars crashed all along the highway, in a giant moving truck with my then gf, we made it safe but it was white knuckles all the way.

Best experience getting out of the family home where most of my abuse occurred.

I did the commuting split for my gf/wife too - we found a home equal distance between her job and mine - we both had two hour drives every day but it was worth having a place of our own in the country.

Here's hoping your travels are safe!

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