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#2340 - 04/02/03 08:40 AM LOSS OF WOZ
tallsteve Offline
Moderator Emeritus
Registered: 12/06/02
Posts: 404
Loc: Boston, MA
Hello Brother Survivors,

I regret to inform you of the loss of our brother, woz from Australia. Late Tuesday evening, his wife, jo told me of the loss in a p2p. She requested that I let all the others know. What follows is the unedited text of the chat we had.

standingtall] steve this is woz' wife may i speak with you
[tallsteve] yes i remember and please let's tal;k
[standingtall] i hvae some very sad news im afraid
[tallsteve] oh no please tell
[tallsteve] how can i support you?
[standingtall] woz passed into the other world yesterday
[tallsteve] oh no
[tallsteve] can you tell me what happened. I aso sorry to hear that
[standingtall] would you please inform everyone as i will not be back to our work space again to do it
[standingtall] it just got to hard
[tallsteve] yes trust me to do that
[standingtall] please lket everyone know ho much support they offerd
[tallsteve] he taught me alot
[standingtall] we miss him terribly
[tallsteve] yes
[standingtall] i am sorry to have to leave this in your lap
[tallsteve] cn you say more of what happend...and if too painful that is okay
[tallsteve] no standing iwll be okay
[tallsteve] the men will suppoort you
[standingtall] i will be sacttering his ashes along witht he list of lies next tuesday at the beach as planned
[tallsteve] a i mena the men will support me
[standingtall] what do you need to know
[tallsteve] I guess what was teh too much for him...if you know?
[standingtall] yes it was
[standingtall] the nights were too long and the nightamres to real
[standingtall] he seemed to be doing so well
[standingtall] it was unexpected
[tallsteve] aslo the feleling i have now is i wished i could have done more
[tallsteve] as you must also feel
[tallsteve] also jo how areyou doing?
[standingtall] nobody could have done anything more...he was well supported everywhere...there was just too much pain
[standingtall] i will always love him...
[standingtall] he was my beautiful wonderful man
[tallsteve] yes jo know taht i will think of him often
[standingtall] and a great loss to this world
[standingtall] thankyou......
[tallsteve] he taought me so much in a short period of time
[standingtall] i have to go...
[tallsteve] yes i wil tell the others
[standingtall] i just wanted to let you fellas know
[standingtall] send prayers to him ok
[tallsteve] will do
[standingtall] bye
[tallsteve] thanks for everyting you did to make him so happy
[tallsteve] hugs toyou jo
[standingtall] ps the funerala is friday morning our time
[tallsteve] sure i will be praying for all of you
[standingtall] thankyou
[tallsteve] as will the me here
[tallsteve] the mn
[tallsteve] men
[standingtall] thankyou
[standingtall] well
[tallsteve] yes you too


#2341 - 04/02/03 09:36 AM Re: LOSS OF WOZ
Usel51 Offline

Registered: 03/03/03
Posts: 11
Loc: Topeka, KS
I am very sad at the passing of our brother woz. I have looked forward to chatting with him, the short time I have been here. He was truly a kind and generous man, and gave me much support, as I hope I was able to give back to him. He had a wonderful sense of humor, and got a kick out of knocking Kansas. I will always remember his parting words, when he would leave chat. "journey well usel." I intend to do just that. Thanx mate for being in my life, and helping me on my journey. And woz..."Journey Well"

#2342 - 04/02/03 09:37 AM Re: LOSS OF WOZ
Thad Offline
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Registered: 08/28/01
Posts: 1752
Loc: Oakland, CA
Such a sadness such a loss

Woz had a hard life but toward the end of it he also had us
And we had him

For him I would think it was a moment of clarity
in a world of denial and numbness that turned into pain and nightmares
For us it was a moment of pain and healing shared

Finding us was important to him
His finding us was important to us

I wonder, What if he had never found us?
How many are there out there who have no chance to heal
Laying in prisons mental hospitals or stuck in painful relationships
Or utterly alone except for his petulant lost child
We are not so lost nor do we ever have to be so alone

We bring our pain here to share the burden, but also to share our healing
Woz did that Im proud of our time together
Im sorry for the awful loss of him
And I cry for him
And myself too, for all my loss as well
But I will also celebrate our time of healing together

The ashes of our lies will be dispersed in yet another ocean
Thank you for that, Jo we will be there with you

"..this place isn't a discussion's a portal..." Lupin
"The truth will set you free, but first it will probably piss you off." dwf's AA sponsor.

#2343 - 04/02/03 12:35 PM Re: LOSS OF WOZ
Sick Puppy Offline

Registered: 03/30/03
Posts: 300
Loc: Nowhere Land
I only talked to him once... but I'd read this posts and I wanted to talk to him again... I thought we had some common ground. I guess it's dumb to feel so lousy when I didn't know the guy... but I cried myself to sleep last night about this...

And one day we will die
And our ashes will fly
From the aeroplane over the sea
But for now we are young
Let us lay in the sun
And count every beautiful thing we can see

Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea

#2344 - 04/02/03 05:18 PM Re: LOSS OF WOZ
Lloydy Offline
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Registered: 04/17/02
Posts: 7071
Loc: England Shropshire
Everytime I read something by Woz I was concious of his love and respect for all those who were trying to help him, he was deeply appreciative of our trust and support.

And he returned it to us all unconditionaly.

Woz's loss is being felt around the globe, but nowhere more than by his family and friends in Australia. My heart goes out to them.

A while back Woz wrote a very powerful piece that moved me deeply.

tonight i did another Inipi ceromony (Sweat Lodge)and in the first 3 directions i was feeling low and weak and well rather pathetic, then in the final round, i had this remmberence of my materanl Grandmother when i was little b4 the abuse started i rememberd the way she would hold me, rock me, just look at me and loved me... i rembemer the games of hide and seek in the orchard, and all the apples there wher so many, i remember her big big apron, that stored so much in the front pocket, wool, scissors, and just so much stuff, i would hide under there and things would bonk me on the head, poke me it was fun under there, i remembered in a game of hide and seek i hide under there no one could find me i was there for an eternity ( for a little kid) i must of gigled or something cause they found me it was the best time i remember her so clearly now, it was a great great memory to come back to me, after so many weeks of dark, gray, and sadness and hurt i was so happy , i knew i was loved then.
We shall miss him.

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined. As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler.
Henry David Thoreau

#2345 - 04/02/03 05:26 PM Re: LOSS OF WOZ
John D Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 11/30/02
Posts: 5
Loc: Texas
Woz was a great friend to us all....I shal miss him and pray for his family.
Love john1234

Let us remember his strength


#2346 - 04/02/03 06:59 PM Re: LOSS OF WOZ
Cement Offline

Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 740
Loc: Southern California
May the peace of the universe, which passes all understanding, be in our hearts and minds today, and from this day forward.

Journey well, Woz.


And let the darkness fear our light.

#2347 - 04/02/03 06:59 PM Re: LOSS OF WOZ
Mike Church Offline
Moderator Emeritus
Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 3439
Loc: Toronto, Canada
I spoke to Woz a number of times in chat and he had a great sense of humour and a loving and caring attitude. I was a priviledge to know him for the time I did. I our last chat experience we all agreed that it would be great to meet somewhere and just have to male camaraderie that has evaded so many of us. My love goes out to his Family and Friends. We shall miss you Woz but you will never leave our hearts.



#2348 - 04/02/03 09:45 PM Re: LOSS OF WOZ
Nathan LaChine Offline

Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 5407
Loc: Washington State
Woz my friednly aussie nutt. I only knew you for a short time. In that time we become more then friends. We shared some of the most painful moments of our lives. We found strength together. We found understanding we found each other. I sit here crying once more for a lost brother I think of the time we did have together. It is moments like these that I wonder why does everyone I love and care about pass on? Days like today I wish I would just give up on healing but then I know this is not what you would want. I will never forget you NEVER my true brother. I hope that in death you find the peace you never found here on Earth. You are once again a free child free of the pain free of the fear free of it all. Take care my brother

Always loving and caring about you, Nathan

#2349 - 04/02/03 09:54 PM Re: LOSS OF WOZ
ecb Offline

Registered: 02/04/03
Posts: 205
I only ever chatted with woz once. But I was very tentative in the chat room and he was incredibly accepting and friendly. I barely knew him, but he seemed a great person.

My heart goes out to his friends and family, as well as those on this board who knew him well.

It saddens me to know that any of us have lost the fight. I hope that he is able to find the peace in death that he couldn't in life.


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