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#233809 - 06/26/08 06:20 PM Theophostics?
jacob77 Offline
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Does anyone know anything about Theophostics?
A friend of mine introduced me to it,but I'm bunrned out on buying books right now.

Jacob

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#233823 - 06/26/08 06:58 PM Re: Theophostics? [Re: jacob77]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophostic

I read some of the websites. Sounds like a combination of recovered memory and EMDR. I guess the answer depends on how deep your faith is in their God.

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#233827 - 06/26/08 07:08 PM Re: Theophostics? [Re: LN3(SS)]
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Sounds like bullshit but so do a lot of therapies on the face of it. Might even ruin your chances for a Police case if it's found that theophostics helps you construct or confabulate memories.

I'm curious about EMDR but still haven't seen a coherent explanation of how it works. To my mind, I want to know why a therapy works before I subject myself to it.



Edited by hogan_dawg (06/26/08 07:13 PM)
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#233835 - 06/26/08 07:25 PM Re: Theophostics? [Re: hogan_dawg]
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check out
http://www.emdr.com/
EMDR didn't work for me, mostly because I have a lazy eye. But the theophostics brings in an element of religion that seems to invalidate a lot of the gains that seem to be realized by the light part of the therapy.

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#233841 - 06/26/08 07:51 PM Re: Theophostics? [Re: LN3(SS)]
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Theophostics is not for everyone, but it is similar to EMDR in ways. I've gone through a couple of sessions of it and did see that it can be helpful for some. The facilitator would need to be a match for you in that you can get through it. In my experience they were not judgemental of me and my answers to the things that were asked. It was not a "NOw YOU'RE HEALED" kind of thing, it was a progression and that wasn't near being an expectation. It does attack a lot of Spiritual warfare and other key things of faith so you would have to understand and be grounded in some things.

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#233855 - 06/26/08 09:17 PM Re: Theophostics? [Re: usmc97]
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I feel a moral obligation to point out, as someone who got very hurt in my own experience trying to make certain WP pages more balanced to say that in my experience, WP is a very, very, very bad place to try and get information about anything related to CSA. At the very least, always make sure to click on a page's "discussion" section and "history" section to see what the debates are about the issue.


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#518426 - 12/03/17 03:54 PM Re: Theophostics? [Re: jacob77]
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I’m curious about this also. My T suggested a book about it, it’s apparent that this is where he is headed in my treatment. I feel like it is pie in the sky nonsense.

I feel like at some point when it doesn’t work I will be the one to blame:

-didn’t pray with a pure heart
-didn’t REALLY want to submit to God
-feel like he uses logic to trap me somehow; like a contract. Ie: ‘you agreed that this is true and said that you wanted that’

Please tell me your experiences with this.

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#518486 - 12/05/17 06:05 AM . [Re: SDD757]
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Edited by usmc97 (01/09/18 01:45 AM)
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The statistics? 1 in 4, 1 in 6?
...then me the imaginary number

Abuse Part I&II
http://www.discussion.malesurvivor.org/b...7031#Post517031

Part III&IV
http://www.discussion.malesurvivor.org/b...7032#Post517032

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#518488 - 12/05/17 08:24 AM Re: Theophostics? [Re: jacob77]
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Sounds like non-sense not much different from Reiki healing just with a Christian twist. It can be dangerous cause it is being done by untrained and unlicensed people.

EMDR is different because there is a strong scientific research supporting its efficacy. I am a PhD researcher and have read a lot of the research on EDMR. The inner working of EMDR is not known yet although there is at least 2 scientific hypothesis.

Theophostics has no valid scientific research. The inventor of it published two papers in some theological/psychological journal that is not very scientific (I looked it up). You are better off sticking to proven treatments instead of some quackery.

If you like spirituality even Christianity go to church or pray at home. I go to church and pray but when it comes to therapy I want it to be supported by strong scientific evidence.
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#518489 - 12/05/17 11:53 AM Re: Theophostics? [Re: jacob77]
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There is no one method that works for everyone--it would be wonderful if there was one treatment that fits all sizes but it does not exist. I have tried many and lately I have been doing the Sweat Lodge which seems to be helping immensely. Why I am not sure but other methods helped in different ways and other methods of healing no impact.

I do not discourage survivors from exploring because one method maybe the right one for you.

Kevin

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