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#20653 - 02/03/04 02:39 PM Cannot deal with this anymore (STRONG TRIGGERS!)
crisispoint Offline

Registered: 09/24/03
Posts: 2154
Loc: Massachusetts
A person who has become a friend told me he wants it to be more. Should be great news, right? Well, it's triggered me. Always, abything triggers me lately.

I don't know what I want from a relationshp. I want sex. Sex scares me. I want emotional intimacy. I cannot trust anybody. I want things to get better. Things go back downhill.

Why is it that I'm allowed to stop the downward spiral and start climbing out of the hole, only to have life throw a noose around my neck and kick the ladder out from under me? Am I to blame for this? Do I WANT this?

Dammit, I feel like a drama queen and I feel like I'm becoming a terminal downer on the site. But God, there doesn;t seem to be any Goddamn relief, or better still, the relief is short f**king lived and I'm back at the bottom.

It takes so much energy to get through the day that I have nothing left at tthe end of it. I feel like I'm failing my friends and failing myself and there ins't an end. I'm being teased every time I feel like I've turned a corner because I'm back at the f**king bottom again!

I cannot live like this anymore. I can't deal with this anymore. Sometimes I feel like giving up and I'm afraid I'm very close. I was feeling okay yesterday and I'm back at the bottom again. If this is what the rest of my life is going to be like, then Dammit, my abuser has already f**king won. The world has f**king won because it's shown me the sham that my beliefs actually are.

There is no hope. None. There never was any.


A hypocrite at the end of his rope. But I can't help it anymore.


There are reasons I'm taking medication. They're called "other people." - Me, displaying my anti-social tendancies

#20654 - 02/03/04 02:49 PM Re: Cannot deal with this anymore (STRONG TRIGGERS!)
phoster Offline

Registered: 11/21/03
Posts: 758
Loc: ohio

Take deep breaths for a second, and get your mind on the bright things in life. I wish I were in a stronger place now. Perhaps, I could be of more help.

I have to believe that it gets better, that there is some point out there where a person breaks out of the cycle you describe. There has to be light at the end of the tunnel, full of happiness and fulfillment, otherwise this is all a pointless waste. I see some who have come out on the other side, and live good lives, so I have to believe that it is out there. We just have to figure out how to reach it, and how to stay there instead of slipping back.

I’m sorry you’re hurting, and hope you rise above it soon.

Take care,

compassion is a light even to the darkest soul

#20655 - 02/03/04 03:54 PM Re: Cannot deal with this anymore (STRONG TRIGGERS!)
outis Offline

Registered: 02/27/03
Posts: 2261
Loc: Maryland USA

I know that kind of feeling. I hope you feel better, and soon.

I can tell you one experience I had that helps me find hope. In December I went to a retreat organized by SIA. One of the events was a Saturday night session of "the Shame Game." It's something like musical chairs. One survivor stood in the middle of a circle of others who were seated. There was one less chair than persons. So the person in the middle asks about something true about themself, like "How many people here like me acted out?" or whatever they think to say. Everyone of the seated people who can say it's true for them has to move at least two seats away. Like little kids in musical chairs, it's a mad jumble, and one person is left standing to go into the center.

I had a few turns in the center, and it did me a world of good to see just how normal my reactions to abuse are, and how abnormal my childhood was.

It was really great fun. I told several people later that for the first time in my memory, the muscles of my face were sore from smiling and laughing so much when I had been clean and sober.

We played that game till after 1:00 a.m. Sunday, and I was the last person in the center. Some of these people had been working on their recovery for over a decade, or even longer. I asked, "Who here like me is sick and tired of recovery and abuse and victimization and survival and just wants it all to GO AWAY?"

Everyone moved from their seat.

My point is that even people far into recovery don't like having to do it. Like I say when I reply to someone's first post here, none of us would have chosen to need this place or one like it.

Despite all that, I learned that Saturday night, and still felt the reminders in my facial muscles the following Monday (!) that it is possible to have fun, real, clean, pure fun on the "journey of recovery." It's "of" and not "to" because based on the reactions I saw to that last "who here?" question, the work is never done. Yet now I realize that we can have fun even if we have to do this work.

Give yourself permission to let this stuff "go away" for a while, even just an hour or so. There are other parts of your life, and some of them are a lot more pleasant than wrestling full time with this crap. Don't neglect them.



"Telemachos, your guest is no discredit to you. I wasted no time in stringing the bow, and I did not miss the mark. My strength is yet unbroken…"—The Odyssey, translated by W.H.D. Rouse

#20656 - 02/03/04 04:03 PM Re: Cannot deal with this anymore (STRONG TRIGGERS!)
MrDon Offline

Registered: 01/08/01
Posts: 957
Loc: Deltona, FL
You remind me of what I often go through. At times I feel like I have taken so many steps and then at times I feel as if I just fell back down the mountain side. One thing I try to help myself look at and continue thinking about is there are some days that I take 3 steps forward, and some days where I take two steps backwards. However at the end of the day, I am still one step ahead.

I do agree that it isn't easy but I know that things do get better.

Hang in there... you can make it! Keep your focus on the steps you have taken and just put a pillow under yourself when you fall back.


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#20657 - 02/03/04 05:04 PM Re: Cannot deal with this anymore (STRONG TRIGGERS!)
Printer57 Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 22
Loc: anytown, USA
all to often it seems like i am there too. I'm having almost the same conversation with myself gets so bloody tiring just trying to keep up. Everything feels heavier, I just want to go fetal position and stop the madness.
But we can't. We have to struggle on, b/c we are the survivors, and others need us. I was fortunate to "stumble" upon this site just when I needed it most. How many others come to this site in the same way.
There is great value in reading about the struggle of others b/c it often speaks to my own experience.
So when I read about your struggle Scot, I see that another man went through what i'm going through and it does give some small measutre of hope.
Please hear me when i say, I wish to high heaven you never went through what you did, but you are helping others b/c of your honsety and courage to tell where you are at.
Hold on, when everything else says let go, hold on. I'm better able to hold on knowing that you other men are holding on as well.
Peace be with you Scot, and with the rest of us.

#20658 - 02/03/04 09:17 PM Re: Cannot deal with this anymore (STRONG TRIGGERS!)
theo Offline

Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 1122
at times like this there is really nothing that can be said to take away the pain and anger in one's voice, except that your pain and rage is heard very clearly here and validated by every single one of us. it is times like this, when they happen to me, that i have to struggle ten times as hard to look up and try to glimpse that horizon i speak of so often. the promise is there, and as in your signature line, it is worth fighting for. i am here, scot, i am listening.

journey well,
theo dewolfe

- It is gift, and gift will find its way
- I inherit through my choice. I build through my affirmation. It is through my freedom that I nurture, or fade into autonomy
- I was not given to serve life, but to embrace it

#20659 - 02/04/04 12:47 AM Re: Cannot deal with this anymore (STRONG TRIGGERS!)
Lloydy Offline
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Registered: 04/17/02
Posts: 7071
Loc: England Shropshire
Joe's right -
My point is that even people far into recovery don't like having to do it. Like I say when I reply to someone's first post here, none of us would have chosen to need this place or one like it.
It's hard work, and we often take a step back - even slip back \:\(
But when I slip back I see how crap my old life was, and I f******g hate it !
On balance, the crap far outweighs the hard work.


Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined. As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler.
Henry David Thoreau

#20660 - 02/04/04 02:14 AM Re: Cannot deal with this anymore (STRONG TRIGGERS!)
Bill_1965 Offline
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Registered: 06/29/03
Posts: 1984
Loc: Flint, Michigan

Hang in there, the hope is there. I gets tough to see at times.

Something that didn't bother me yesterday will trigger me today. As I peel the layers of abuse of, another one shows. Each one of these has a different set of triggers.

I know what I want from a relationship, trouble is that I'm not ready to live up to my end of the bargain. Relationships talk communication, it's all about communication. Communicate you likes, dislikes, similarities, differences, feelings, dreams, hopes, this list goes on and on. Before you can openly communicate you must trust that person to communicate the real you to them. Therein lies a big problem, you must trust. Trust to have a realationship. Trust to have intimancy. You even have to trust that the red light will turn green.

It is a kick in the gut and head when we extend some trust, even guarded trust, and we get kicked by the break in that trust. Wiether it be accidential or purposeful. Makes the next time harder. The years of being kicked in the gut and head, have run a toll on our ability to trust again.

I think I have found the door to that trust, now is time to take the step through. When deciding to extend the arm of trust, ignore the past. Look at each and everybody that is being considered for trust and judge them on their own merits. If they meet the requirements you have set up, trust them. If not, don't. Trust your insticts, not your fears.

Be good to yourself, be true to yourself, and you will never ever let anybody down. Even when you have a bad day.

We all fall sometime, the trick is to get right back up. Brush the dust off ourselves. And head forward. Use the rest areas along the path, have fun and enjoy things, if not for only a little bit. A good laugh goes a long way.

That f**king perp hasn't won and won't as long as you keep going forward and don't give into his demented thoughts.

There is hope, it is lying right there in front of you to grab hold of.

Take care of yourself, be true to yourself and you will have YOUR life, YOUR happiness, YOUR security, and YOUR perps life and happiness in your hands.


Pain is Temporary; Quitting lasts Forever. - Lance Armstrong

#20661 - 02/04/04 05:43 AM Re: Cannot deal with this anymore (STRONG TRIGGERS!)
Angry_youth_86_Keith Offline

Registered: 11/06/02
Posts: 103
Loc: Olympia, Washington
Some times it is at the lowest point that you can find things in your self that are stronger then you would find any other time. Through pain and strife happyness is only found after sacrifice,loss, and pain. I think that if you are at what you consider a bottom then it is now that you might find the strongest things yet inside your self. Now I am not you so I can't pick those things out for you, that is something only you can do. But remeber those people who have came this far arnt the weak ones. It is apparent that you have somthing in you that keeps you moving along so if you can find that and make sure you never loose it then you might see a drastic change in mood.

"Ignoring mortality, we worship mediocrity"- Greg Graffin

"Live fast, die young, leave a great looking corpse"-Ronny Van Zant

#20662 - 02/04/04 06:00 PM Re: Cannot deal with this anymore (STRONG TRIGGERS!)
crisispoint Offline

Registered: 09/24/03
Posts: 2154
Loc: Massachusetts
The only thing that has been keeping me from doing something REALLY stupid is the fact that I would be hurting people who care about me. No matter how many times I'd say, "it's not you, it's me and all the people who hurt me. Not you," they'd never believe it and always wonder if there was something more they could have done.

Much like I feel with Jay.

The other thing that keeps me going are the students and other people I help during the day. My therapist told me that I have SUCH a God complex at times. Yes, I feel like I make a difference, but I want to do MORE, and when I fail (in my views), I feel like I haven't accomplished a thing.

All the good things, I have, and all I see is pain, and I cannot help it.

The yoyoing of my emotions is wearing a little f**king thin. I'm running out of the energy to deal with it and I'm afraid. I'm really afraid. I've tried suicide before, and I've always thought I'd never sink that low again. But I am reaching that point.

I'm hanging on by my fingernails, and I'm worried about what happens when the good things aren't enough.

I'm scared.


There are reasons I'm taking medication. They're called "other people." - Me, displaying my anti-social tendancies

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