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#188451 - 10/23/07 01:11 PM Re: Biological basis for pedophilia? [Re: Ken Singer, LCSW]
WalkingSouth Offline

Registered: 08/30/05
Posts: 16270
Loc: Waldport, Oregon
Interesting reading, Ken. Wow! I'd certainly like to see a study done by a different organization just to check the findings.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting 'Holy Shit! What a ride!'" ~Hunter S. Thompson

#188452 - 10/23/07 01:13 PM Re: Biological basis for pedophilia? [Re: Ken Singer, LCSW]
BJK Offline

Registered: 08/02/07
Posts: 1526
Originally Posted By: Ken Singer, LCSW
No one knows what percentage of men are pedophiles, but Cantor said it
is a uniquely male condition

Yep. That explains my mother.


Revenge is nothing more than another way of perpetuating abuse.

What the world needs now
Is some new words of wisdom
Like la la la la la la la la la.
-David Lowery

Having a friend who will keep a secret for you is worthless compared to a friend who won't keep a secret from you.

#188457 - 10/23/07 02:23 PM Re: Biological basis for pedophilia? [Re: BJK]
Hauser Offline

Registered: 11/12/05
Posts: 2963
Loc: United States
Yes, that is a rather absurd generalization on Cantor's part. Hell, I've seen guests on CNN's Larry King show devote an entire hour to the subject of female perps, Mothers in particular.

#188458 - 10/23/07 02:33 PM Re: Biological basis for pedophilia? [Re: dgoods]
kellygtx Offline

Registered: 07/11/07
Posts: 412
Loc: Texas, USA
dgoods and Ken Singer -

All this talk about markers and characteristics needs to be studied with great care as not to stereotype individuals. It is the behavior we want to change. My fear is that if we can identify certain traits or characteristics in certain people, part of society is going to want to say "Look at these results - that person is a pedophile. Let's make sure they get (put them) in treatment." Or "Don't hire short men at an elementary school - or you run the risk of him being a pedophile."

I just think there has to be a great deal of caution used when we say this is the mark of a potential pedophile. That could easily be used against us also - remember there is a popular misconception that survivors have a high rate of propensity to become perps.

Edited by kellygtx (10/23/07 02:37 PM)
I bid you Peace.


The time is always NOW. Breath In. Breath Out. Move On.

#188459 - 10/23/07 03:09 PM Re: Biological basis for pedophilia? [Re: Ken Singer, LCSW]
ScottyTodd Offline
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Could it be that 'short male pedophiles' get caught more often than 'tall male pedophiles' ? Perhaps the "cure" will be to inject a "to be taller" chip into the fetal environment? Is the study telling me to warn my kids to avoid short people? Well my sons are 6'6" and 6'4"...almost EVERYBODY is shorter!!! What a dilemma!!!!

Again, I guess it is okay for my sons to hang out with Mary Jane Laterno and other such female teachers since being a pedophile is UNIQUELY A MALE CONDITION!


PS: I would find it interestingly funny if the researchers weren't taking their test seriously!!

If you think you can or you can't - you're right!.......anon
It's never too late to have a happy childhood!.....anon
You're very normal for the abnormal situation you've been through..............S. Todd

#188463 - 10/23/07 05:33 PM Re: Biological basis for pedophilia? [Re: ScottyTodd]
dgoods Offline

Registered: 10/15/07
Posts: 622
Loc: Richmond area
Wow, i don't know how i missed that Cantor thing... how absurd...
In my last post, i almost went on about the dangers of straying too close to a eugenics-type mindset. I'm glad Hitler's not around to see what's possible with technology these days- it's the same old story about a knife being able to be used to slice bread, or cut someone's throat. The issue isn't the technonlogy, it's are we mature enough as a society to know how to use it responsibly?
just my further 2 cents...

Give sorrow words: the grief that does not speak
Whispers the o'er-fraught heart and bids it break.

-William Shakespeare, Macbeth, Act IV, Sc. III

#188472 - 10/23/07 07:11 PM Re: Biological basis for pedophilia? [Re: dgoods]
pain4ever Offline

Registered: 04/05/01
Posts: 1032
Okay this is totally off subject but is it me or are the kids getting taller and taller?

Peace and Tranquility all depends on your frame of reference.

#188482 - 10/23/07 09:00 PM Re: Biological basis for pedophilia? [Re: pain4ever]
duncanUK Offline

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 632
everyone in the street will be suspicious of short men. its like they tell us if you have a long index finger your gay. or some other stupid things.

i dont think they know what causes pedophilia.

you dont see me. i am not really here. Its my fault.. all of it. I am to blame and no one else.

#188484 - 10/23/07 09:16 PM Re: Biological basis for pedophilia? [Re: duncanUK]
MarkK Offline

Registered: 04/02/07
Posts: 2653
Loc: Denver, CO
a long index finger??

** is checking both hands **

#188492 - 10/23/07 10:22 PM Re: Biological basis for pedophilia? [Re: MarkK]
Ken Singer, LCSW Offline

Registered: 08/24/00
Posts: 5781
Loc: Lyons, CO USA
This may bring a whole new meaning to Randy Newman's tongue-in-cheek song a few years back, "Short people got no reason to live".

By the way, I post these items here because they can provoke some discussion and sometimes the news is really important. I wouldn't put too much on the short people article but the issues around brain function are pretty interesting in that the role of the brain in processing trauma and maybe some of factors that make some people abuse others may have some biological basis.

Just as we know that alcohol affects brain function, getting drunk does not excuse anyone from their behaviors. It might help explain why they do stupid things.


Blissfully retired after 35 years treating sexual abuse

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