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#177699 - 09/01/07 11:42 PM Gay or Straight?
Frog Offline
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Registered: 08/05/07
Posts: 291
Loc: Arizona

Hey guys (and gals)...got a serious question...

I am SEXUALLY ATTRACTED to women...can't get enough of their
bodies...they turn me on beyond anything I can describe...

My problem(s) is/are this/these...

society accepts men who sit on their ass and have the women
in their lives wait on them hand and foot...

I LOVE cooking...was a banquet chef when I was younger...short
order cook also...

I grill atleast 3-4 times a week all year long...

I don't mind doing laundry...I sort and do the actual work
including fold clothes...

I clean the house w/ the exception of the toilet and dishes...
(dishes issue is from my abusive fucking parents making us
wash EVERY dish in the house if they found one dirty dish
after dinner)

I can design a room including paint and all accesorizing...
ask the ole lady...I've had her speechless w/ some of our
home remodels...

I only like sports for the beer drinking... I cannot quote
stats of any player or team...I do go to many sporting events
for the ATMOSPHERE and ENERGY only...oh and all the CHICS... \:\)

I'm totally into music...love country and metal and old school
(80's) Rock (hair metal) \:\)

I CAN coordinate my (and others, including chics) clothing...

I have read some "chic" books, and enjoyed them...

I WILL watch a "chic" flick and cry and be touched...

I do ride quads/atv's...

I own a LIFTED F350 Diesel...It's BLACK \:\)

Most of my t-shirts are BLACK....

But my suits and dress shirts are not the DRAB GREY shit
I see most of corporate wear...

I'm very sensitive to others feelings...

I LOVE to SERVE others and feed off their compliments...

I enjoy wine as well as brew my own beer and mead (honey wine)

I watch FoodTV and all the Home shows I can find...

Most of the things I do are considered by society as being
GAY...most "REAL MEN" do not do these things...

Am I GAY?...

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A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: "Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time." When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment, "The one I feed the most."

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#177704 - 09/01/07 11:52 PM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Frog]
MemoryVault Offline
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Hey, Frog --

If it helps, I am gay (or so far to the gay end of bi that it makes no difference.)

* I can't cook

* I have no fashion sense

* I go clothes shopping three times a year, usually when something wears out. It takes about an hour.

* I have guy-perception, which means that objects placed in my house become invisible to me after two weeks, which makes cleaning really hard

* The dust bunnies under my desk are planning an armed insurrection

* I can't stand chick flicks...I can't decide if Julia Roberts or Meg Ryan is the Antichrist. Maybe Jennifer Anniston?

If those things were gay requirements, they'd have revoked my membership card a long time ago. I think it's all a plot to sell moisturizer!


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#177707 - 09/01/07 11:58 PM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: MemoryVault]
Frog Offline
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MemoryVault

LOL \:\)

too funny...

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A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: "Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time." When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment, "The one I feed the most."

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#177708 - 09/02/07 12:02 AM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Frog]
Frog Offline
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Loc: Arizona
My vote is for Rachael Ray, as the antichrist, on the FoodNetwork...her voice
drives me insane...



Edited by Frog (09/02/07 12:03 AM)
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A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: "Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time." When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment, "The one I feed the most."

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#177725 - 09/02/07 01:20 AM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Frog]
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Registered: 06/04/07
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Frog,

The one and only tell is if you can plan a wedding!!!!!

LMAO....

Seriously, You start your post off with QUOTE...

I am SEXUALLY ATTRACTED to women...can't get enough of their
bodies...they turn me on beyond anything I can describe...


Yuk!!!!!!!!!!!


We gay guys would never say anything like that.

Relax.... you just have good taste. Most men are pigs!!! ROTFLMAO

Luv ya,
Carl

P.S. I always thought your avetar was some kind of military patch, now I know it's a frog on the world..... He's sooooo cute....!!!!

P.P.S. I hate Rachael Ray also. LOL


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#177727 - 09/02/07 01:29 AM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Scoutvictim]
Jarrad Offline
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Registered: 10/27/06
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Loc: arizona
dude. you are straight. you can think about chicks in a sexual way you are straight. i cringe at the thought of snatch.


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#177730 - 09/02/07 02:11 AM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Frog]
brokensoul Offline
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Registered: 08/28/07
Posts: 101
Hello frog,

I'm sexauly attracted to women. (Married better be)

I Like to cook sometimes.

Love to try to help wife keep the house up when I'm up to it so I don't mind laundry. but I hate dishes.

Not bad at figuring out and accessorizing rooms and I am a pretty good carpenter.

I Don't care much about sports.

I like Music mostly light rock some country, metal, and like you 80s hair bands.

I Don't care to read book's at all.

I watch some chick flicks and sometimes get touched.

I can coordinate my clothes and know what looks good on women that is as far as that goes.

No place to ride ATVs but have owned a few.

I have a jacked up Jeep that I love.(except when it is broken or I have to put gas in it.

I wear what I think looks good even if it is bight and silk.

I also am sensitive to others feelings to a point.

I hate wine mostly drink beer.

I watch home improvement shows all the time. Sometimes watch food shows.

I have come realize that society with it's veiws and statistics are cruel and never take the full story into account. They also never leave any room for individualism and want to slap a label across everyones forehead.

I am Straight by the way even though I hate to say it that way because I used a label.

Take care,
Brokensoul


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#177770 - 09/02/07 10:49 AM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Frog]
theatrekid Offline
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Registered: 06/03/07
Posts: 702
Loc: oregon
Originally Posted By: Frog
My vote is for Rachael Ray, as the antichrist, on the FoodNetwork...her voice
drives me insane...


i love Rachael Ray she is quite the babe lol how can you guys say she is the anti christ? im just hurt. lol

,chris


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#177771 - 09/02/07 11:19 AM Re: Gay or Straight? *DELETED* [Re: theatrekid]
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#177795 - 09/02/07 05:24 PM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: ttoon]
Jarrad Offline
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Registered: 10/27/06
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Loc: arizona
you guys are confusing what "gay" is. gay means you fuck guys. you are attracted to guys. you want to be with guys. it has nothing at all to do with how you cook or clean or act. nothing at all.


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#177805 - 09/02/07 06:56 PM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Jarrad]
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It sucks that we even have to have conversations like this...

I have questioned my 'straightness' a lot...

because of my CSA this question comes up a lot...

A LOT...

my real father traded my mom and one more marriage for a gay lifestyle...

this is very confusing for me...

all my csa encounters w/ men don't help either...

then add the 'labels' society puts on the things I enjoy...

FUCK...I AM CONFUSED...

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A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: "Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time." When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment, "The one I feed the most."

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#177806 - 09/02/07 07:09 PM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Frog]
Frog Offline
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Loc: Arizona

plus the fact that when I was 19 and was sent to prison...

the repeated rape...

I could go either way...

what a harsh TRUTH/REALITY to face...

FUCK...FUCK...FUCK...FUCK...FUCK...

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A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: "Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time." When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment, "The one I feed the most."

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#177809 - 09/02/07 07:19 PM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Frog]
Jarrad Offline
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Registered: 10/27/06
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Loc: arizona
dude. there is nothing wrong with being gay. just like there is nothing wrong with being straight.


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#177846 - 09/02/07 09:48 PM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Jarrad]
SECfanMIKE Offline
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Registered: 08/16/07
Posts: 172
Loc: South Carolina
FROG...

Lemme see if I understand your post...

You like grilling out all the time (I hate the grease, effort, & heat)

You enjoy doing the laundry (I do it and sorta like it - mostly like that it gets done!)

You like cleaning your house (fortunately, my 21 year old son would rather daily vacuum the house and do a weekly cleaning than pay his share of the car insurance)

You can design a room (that's ALWAYS bee my responsibility in our 22+ years of marriage - from where the furniture goes to where every picture will be hung)

You like various types of music (I like stuff from classical to oldies to jazz to something as off-beat as the B-52s)

You like to co-ordinate your clothing (For me, that means making sure I have a shirt AND pants on!)

You like wine and beer (I'm assuming that this is more classy stuff than "Ripple" or IRON CITY beer)

You enjoy serving others (so does my Sweetie...good thing for me!!)

You watch FOOD NETWORK (I wanna throw a brick at the TV whenever Sandra Lee comes on; but we love Paula Deen as well as DINERS , DRIVE-INS & DIVES...when Robin Miller's show comes on, I ALWAYS sing to my Sweetie - "...she's crazy but I love her, I love my crazy wife..."!!!)

You like bold, expressive suits (I haven't owned a suit in 25 years)

You're sensitive to others feelings (Just ask anybody I've trampled in the LOUNGE, they'll tell you that I'm a "bull-in-a-china-shop)
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SO... it sounds like you could easily replace the whole cast of "QUEER EYE FOR THE STRAIGHT GUY"...

...but, Like Jarrad said, NONE of that makes you gay!!!

Mike ;-)

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#177979 - 09/03/07 08:07 AM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: SECfanMIKE]
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Registered: 08/22/05
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Frog,

When you envision yourself with a partner to live your life with, is that person a male or female?


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#177983 - 09/03/07 08:41 AM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Dewey2k]
Frog Offline
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Loc: Arizona

Dewey2k..I see a female...

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A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: "Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time." When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment, "The one I feed the most."

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#178082 - 09/04/07 12:46 AM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Frog]
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Registered: 05/25/07
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Loc: England
i'd say your straight and you've got nothing to worry about. its like that other fella said your only gay if you shag men, if you don't shag men then your not gay! wat you say on the first page is the equvilant of saying am i gay because i watch television, NO your gay if you shag men, its like am i straight if I play football and stella, No! your straight if you shag women. I think you need to stop labelling things as gay and straight and do watever, otherwise if you fear being gay you will shut down your more sensitive side because you end fearing it and thus fearing yourself which is destructive! everyone has a sensitive side and a hardened side i like to cook too mate there's nothing wrong with that, i'm gonna be moving in with my girlfriend and i'm gonna be doing the cooking and she does the other stuff. look how many male chefs are on tv is Gordon Ramsey gay i think not mate, try not to look into loads of other things to find your answer you already know it your straight straight straight straight straight straight straight straight straight straight straight straight!! lol hope this has helped you out a little all the best Ian!!!!


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#178131 - 09/04/07 10:24 AM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Jarrad]
roadrunner Offline
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Registered: 05/02/05
Posts: 22045
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Frog,

A lot of the things you mention in your first post here may be associated with the stereotypes society has about gay men - and straight men for that matter. But they have nothing to do with your sexuality.

Quite apart from that, if you were gay there would be nothing wrong with that.

I like Dwayne's litmus test: When you think of the person you would like to share your life with, is it a man or a woman? I don't mean just in terms of sex, which is only the physical side of a relationship. It's about feeling emotionally fulfilled and content with someone "just because you're you".

Much love,
Larry

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As I go walking my freedom highway.
Nobody living can make me turn back:
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#178265 - 09/04/07 11:17 PM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: roadrunner]
Frog Offline
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Posts: 291
Loc: Arizona

I could go either way...that's BI...I'm just confused...
I went to a "strip club" this past weekend and wasn't aroused...
A friend of mine works bar there and we chatted all night...
she intro'd me to all the working girls...it was cool...
met some pretty cool girls...wished they were sober but I guess
they have to be to do that...most of the girls would not
talk to me unless I cashed $$$ them...finally just told
them I was gay...man they opened right up...the conversations we had....

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A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: "Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time." When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment, "The one I feed the most."

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#178268 - 09/04/07 11:22 PM Re: Gay or Straight? [Re: Frog]
Frog Offline
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Registered: 08/05/07
Posts: 291
Loc: Arizona

there have been times I wouldn't think about taking an
attractive guy I've met "camping"...ya know...I do get confused
and then just turn into some fucking monster...trying to
convince myself I'm not attracted to men...It's not all
the time, just every now and then I get this "feeling" and
it's about a guy....even though I love the female form,
even there genitalia...

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