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#160697 - 06/08/07 03:02 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: Soccer Kid]
philobat Offline

Registered: 01/31/07
Posts: 293
Loc: California
Here are some interesting facts that seem lead that there are far more incidents and convictions we never hear about. I have asked an internet researcher friend of mine- who told me in every one of these cases the ACLU refused to answer specific questions as to why they would not investigate or become involved when activists and advocates demanded investigation into the allegations, convictions and open charges regarding the following individuals below.

She is also doing some extensive research on private companies, entities and organizations who have also been denied support from the ACLU when some pretty big stuff was about to blow open.

I will post them when I get them. The above was taken from the wall street journal, which is now being sold to Rupert Murdoch- so its doubtful this thread can be researched as the story is being buried during the sale....Interesting eh?


Author: Pundit
Category: Uncategorized


A RECOVERING LIBERAL EXCLUSIVE Last week’s arrest of the fourth highest person in the vaunted Department of Homeland Security, Brian Doyle, brought back memories of other notable folks on the right who preached the Good Book but were really, really bad boys. You remember them, guys like Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggert who never flinched at taking their flocks’ money but somehow managed to use at least part of it for some sweet young stuff.

That got me thinking about other Republican holier than thou folks who might be in the same boat. I asked a friend to do a bit of research on that subject, and here is the list that he put together;

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich of Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania pled no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo of Floyd County, Kentucky was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins of Asbury Park, New Jersey pled guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker of Nashua, New Hampshire is a convicted child molester.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano of Waterbury, Connecticut is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8 and 10-year old girls.

Republican Mayor John Gosek of Oswego, New York was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz of Richland County, Ohio pled guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican Speaker of the Puerto Rico House of Representatives Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain of Monroe County, Pennsylvania was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth of Kannapolis, N.C., is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader of Witchita, Kansas pled guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency of Camden, New Jersey pled guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge of Soputhbay, California was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz of Des Moines, Iowa, who George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble of New London, Connecticut pled no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer of Arizona was charged with molesting his 9-year old step daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.

Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. and Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence both of Washington, D.C. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens of Columbus, Ohio was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio of Burke, Virginia was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen of Colorado Springs. Colorado was convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney of El Paso County, Arizona pled guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane of Illinois had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition and South Carolina Republican leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline of Orange County, California was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman of Maryland was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman and attorney Jeffrey Patti of Sparta, New Jersey was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman of Florida (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. It was Glickman, interestingly enough, that claimed Bill Clinton came from a low rent state and had torn down all of the standards for the highest office in the land.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks of Quartz Hill, California was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway who had relocated to Maine from Huntsville, Alabama after having been accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White of West Chester, Pennsylvania, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston, Texas pled guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling of Anderson, Indiana was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington pled guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan of St. Louis, Missouri was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr, also of St. Louis, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland of Kingsport, Tennessee was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt of Pensacola, Florida was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs of Hawaii County, Hawaii pled guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler of Cass County, Illinois was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner of Clark County, Nevada admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner of Lancaster, Pennsylvania was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter of Boothbay, Maine pled guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. of Wrightsville Borough, Delaware pled no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall of Virginia was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris of West Bend, Wisconsin, who has been described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo of Bakersfield, California molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp, Russell Harding, pled guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen, Sr. of Kalispell, Montana, was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.

These are all matters of public record, not hearsay. They have been reported in both the local press where the incidents occurred and in various national media. The perverts in question have come from all over the country. Their major similarity is that they are Republican Conservative Christian activists who have made their mark by preaching family values while performing unspeakable acts of perversion, many with minors.

So much for family values from the religious right. Now, I am not saying that there aren’t a few pervs who call themselves Democrats, but, somehow, these holier than thou arsh luchs (you can look it up, it’s Yiddish for a**holes) are true and certain hypocrites along with being perverts.

When a political party presents itself as the party of the righteous, whether it is The Republican Party or the Shiite Party in Iraq, or for that matter some members of the various Chasidic sects, you can be absolutely certain that there is something being hidden under all of that religious pomp. Consider the child molestation scandals that have rocked The Roman Catholic Church over the past few years, and you will realize that this problem covers a broad range of people.

However, when you consider the number of Republican members of the religious right/anti choice crowd that have been arrested and sentenced for these perverse acts with children, you come to realize that in their place, at least, religion and conservative politics are truly the hiding places of perverts and scoundrels, perhaps in larger numbers than anywhere else in our country.

Or as Gomer Pyle might have put it, “Surprise, Surprise!”

You can go one by one and find the public files which confirm everyone of these stories!

And for every predator arrested there are many who are yet to be caught.

Edited by philobat (06/08/07 03:06 PM)

#160716 - 06/08/07 04:56 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: philobat]
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Republican this, and Republican that.

May I point out that the Democrat party is just as filthy, made up of the same type of people running for an office they don't deserve. The only difference I see is in the reporting by the liberal press. What they don't report is that since the Democrat party has no standards, they don't have as far to fall in the public eye.


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#160719 - 06/08/07 05:18 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: FormerTexan]
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#160720 - 06/08/07 05:21 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: Soccer Kid]
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Edited by Robbie Brown (06/08/07 07:51 PM)

#160721 - 06/08/07 05:28 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: FormerTexan]
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In my pathetically limited experience, political debates (on nearly ANY possible topic) are best avoided among people who want to get along. I know many, many people who would (quite literally) cross an empty street to avoid each other, for no other reason than because they disagree on how well/badly Political Personality X is handling whatever it is he's handling. Same thing with religious discussion, come to think of it.

Edited by melliferal (06/08/07 05:29 PM)
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#160724 - 06/08/07 05:43 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: melliferal]
philobat Offline

Registered: 01/31/07
Posts: 293
Loc: California
Yes democrats are just as filthy- but oddly fewer have been convicted much less charged- however it does take away from the fact that it is most likely going on.

The republicans mentioned in the post are all card carrying ACLU members...did I forget to mention it? Well the ACLU has a member list on line. You can look it up for yourselves.

#160726 - 06/08/07 05:50 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: philobat]
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Posts: 376
Loc: Michigan

I agree with you about the report being one-sided. It's that way for a reason, though. The reason is that the GOP makes itself out to be the defenders of morality and the party of God. The blatant hypocrisy of it is what turned it into a story. The Wall Street Journal is nobody's liberal rag. I expect that very soon, though, someone will come up with a similar list for Democrats. And well they should. Child molesters should have their foul deeds exposed to the light of day, regardless of who they are.

BTW, it's the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party. Democrat, unlike Republican, is a noun and not an adjective.

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#160727 - 06/08/07 06:00 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: Chain Breaker]
philobat Offline

Registered: 01/31/07
Posts: 293
Loc: California
Guys- I am Libertarian. The main reason is due to the fact that I believe the Dems and Repubs do the same bidding. They are both full of it. Dems just try to make it sound like their doing something for the people (talk, talk, talk).

I actually have slightly more respect for Republicans because at least they are more upfront about their nefarious ways and elitist attitudes.

I do hope they publish a list of Democratic cretins... I really do. All those liars on both sides will rot in eternity. As soon as I get a list- I will post it here.

#160739 - 06/08/07 07:42 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: philobat]
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Can you give us the citation from the Wall Street Journal that this article appeared? I cannot believe that this publication, a primarily Republican and conservative journal would publish something like this.

Please give us the link on WSJ to the article.

If the Republicans listed on the article are "card carrying members of ACLU" I'd like some attribution to that as well. I doubt that most, if any, of them are actual members of ACLU.

Let's act on fact rather than opinion or rumor.


Edited by Ken Singer, LCSW (06/08/07 07:44 PM)
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#160871 - 06/09/07 03:13 PM Re: ACLU and child porn [Re: Ken Singer, LCSW]
philobat Offline

Registered: 01/31/07
Posts: 293
Loc: California
ACLU membership list's can be found through extensive searching, as can most truthful information- Government officials are scrambling like crazy to censor and monitor the internet- even citing last ditch efforts to "rebuild it"- yeah right. The net works just fine.

Anyway, back to you Ken:

The ACLU memberships are private and so therefore I cannot post it here because I could get into trouble and/or be held liable even if I didn't generate it. However you can Google or (meta crawl) and do your own research. It can be found with some effort.

As far as the Wall Street Journal is concern, I will not give up my confidence because it would jeopardize her as a journalist. As discussed, the article in questioned was buried during the buyout talks. It was not published....Yet.

And btw, these are FACTS. With a little dudiligence and research not only can the names be verified on known lists, but each case case can be verified as well.

It is common knowledge that the ACLU continues to this day to represent several organizations including NAMBLA:

They also represent several internet kiddie porn producers, and with a little more research on anyones part- you find a link to a link to a link that will verify numerous reasons to not support this hippocratic organization:

Here's a link that will lead to another- upon further research (sorry, I just can't spoon feed you everything- you will have to learn to feed yourself) you will find that the ACLU is even farther entrenched in this California State....Mishap if you will.

This link will show just how fucked up the Democrats are. In all fairness, I had to post this- again, this link shall lead to more and you will find as I have that neither side is better or worse than the other. Both parties are filled to the brims with some of the most vile and repulsive LEADERS our world has ever seen.

If it were not for the advent of the Internet, most people would never know this.

You can read my cousin's book and find out just how screwed the news media is:

Or you can try my nephew, Jay Adelson's website:

Jay is quite interesting to say the least:

Again this link will lead to another and another- my point is- you will realize that not only is my family incredibly connected, but that I am no slouch when it comes to the Internet.

The information is out there- it just takes a bit of time to begin your research- then the real fun begins.

I am posting this because so many survivors are unaware of what really happening out there in the world and the way it effects us- in how deeply this hideous crap goes.

In the same vain- I cannot give my sources away- especially on here, but if you want a verification- I believe the relatives I have referenced will prove that I am certainly connected enough to get FACTS- not opinion- not rumor- but facts.

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