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#128478 - 08/12/04 09:29 AM x
Aden Offline

Registered: 07/05/04
Posts: 499

#128479 - 08/12/04 03:22 PM Re: x
MikeNY Offline

Registered: 03/07/04
Posts: 927
Loc: NY
In the time that I have been here this is what I have come to see:

Most of the questions that we ask, we already have the answers for. But that isnít the answer that we want. We want an answer that forgives us our transgressions. Yet forgiveness isnít going to come from me or anyone else here. We may explain your innocense as we understand it. And none of that will matter.

It is what you know inside your own head that counts. How I see your situation doesnít matter. How you see it is more to the point.

Some of us come here for these reasons;
try to help
look for attention
seek forgiveness
want companionship
vent anger
self understanding
self delusion
perverse lurking...

We can all add to that list from our own intentions and experiences. I choose to be here and look at you and me together. This group seeking better times. And I am sorry that the things that I have to share with you are not very important most of the time.

Look, I get much more attention from you guys when I am sad then when I am positive. It is good to have support. But it makes me feel bad when I express my positive feelings because I think no one hears when I am happy. I feel to much the subtle rejection of joy in this place. Yet I think that is what we need. Could just be me and my negative attitude.

I am disappointed that no one was able to see thru my eyes. I tried to show you how.

What I honestly think is that we have more complaint than effort. Most of us know what needs to be done. It is just too hard to do it. My own cowardliness has kept from many good things.

I guess that I am just more interested in pragmatic methodologies than in philosophical conceptualizations. I donít want to design a new shovel. I just want to dig a hole.


Moved to "Off Topic". What kind of BS is that. I can think of nothing that is more On Topic that this. Fear of Life, Living, good things, and even feeling good is what is at the core of most everybody here's recovery.

Aden, rather than getting your shovel and digging a hole, how about getting a hammer and making a ladder to get out of one? I am with you. I truly do appreciate every time that I hear something good and positive, from anyone, not just here.

"Every child asks the questions which hold the answers to the secrets of the universe, WHAT?, and WHY?". --Me

#128480 - 08/12/04 08:37 PM Re: x
FastForward Offline

Registered: 08/10/04
Posts: 188
Loc: US

Perhaps hurt people can relate better to others who hurt but find happy people a bit alien and cannot relate as well. Or perhaps the assumption is that, if you are happy you do not need anything, including support. I do not know for sure. I am glad you have positive moments. May they multiply thousandfold. You deserve it.


L&P - always.

#128481 - 08/15/04 12:37 PM Re: x
Leosha Offline

Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 3614
Loc: Right here
We all deserve the good, the fun, the positive in life. Maybe we do not feel we do, but we do. And we need to be reminded that GOOD, that POSITIVE, that FUN, that HAPPINESS exists. Maybe some people are too down to accept that, maybe some people just choose to not accept that fact. That is too bad, I am sorry they are in that place. But that will not stop me from posting some positive things, and responding to them. Their healing is their healing. Mine is mine.


Avatar photo in memory of my younger brother Makar.

"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted."~~~Martin Luther King Jr., 1963


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