Uh, can you have that double spaced typed and in perfect grammar along with references.... smile! As I was reading your post, I thought he is thinking the same way I am as I am beginning to write my 20 page term paper.
Don, I would love if possible to be able to read your term paper when it is completed.
Actually, where a lot of my fellow students used to get really uptight about writing papers, it's something I thrived on. A great way to express my creativity, thots & feelings.
The things you are hitting on remind me of what I have been reading in the book "Compassionate Touch" by Dr Clyde W. Ford.
Apparently I must get Dr. Ford's book!
[/QB][/QUOTE]Another article that I just read which may be helpful as well (although a little scientific). The link to this article is http://www.traumacenter.org/van_der_Kolk_2002_In_Terror\'s_Grip.pdf
. It talks about Post Traumatic STress Disorder but equally applies to what we have been through.[/QB][/QUOTE]
Don this article is good! It confirms & adds fresh
insights into stuff I've been reading about & starting to realize:
“Now brain science is showing that our emotional states originate in the conditions of our bodies: for example our body's chemical profiles, the state of our internal organs, and the contraction of muscle in our face, throat, trunk and limbs.” (p 9)
This confirms my reading in "The Body Bears the Burden" by Dr. Robert Scaer & in other places.
“A prime characteristic of both children and adults with PTSD is that in the face of a threat they cannot inhibit emotional states that originate in physical sensations.” (p 7)
So true, and I'd never thot of it quite so plainly
before. No wonder, tho, that good massage & chiropractic has helped me so much. Dr. Ford, I noted, is among other things a chiropractor.
“Practical anxiety management skills may include training in deep muscle relaxation, control of breathing, role playing, and yoga." (p 8)
Yes this is the kind of stuff I need to do more. Also heard a lot about rolfing, and Pilates.
Role play, while I wouldn't have thot of it as body therapy tho it is in part, led to one of the biggest breakthrough's I've had in recover, last fall: http://www.malesurvivor.org/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001168#000000
I am like you that the therapy is great and I have needed it to get to the point where I am at today. However, I am going to concentrate more now on things like Yoga, relaxation and body work of various types. To me, my mind has progressed but it is the cells in my body that need healing now.
Don it's interesting. I've been giving token thot to doing more serious body work, but thinking more
about deeper cognitive therapies I could do, such as TIR (Traumatic Incident Reduction) or EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing), both of which can involve some body movement but are primarily cognitive as far as I can tell.
I'm coming around to see that what needs the deeper work right now is my body where the traumas
are trapped. And body work is much more readily available to me in many forms than these more cognitive or behavioral therapies. Probably about as well covered by medical insurance too, tho that isn't saying much.
Still, when will I learn that the price of not doing what you need or even may need to do is greater than the price of doing nothing or doing things that seem less costly but aren't really needed anyway?
In some of the stuff that I have been reading for my paper, movement and body work helps release the energy that is bound in the cells. I believe it from what I have seen in my own life.
From my brief experience & reading in this area I'd definitely agree.
And it isn't so much about trying to put each specific memory with each cell (would take a long time since we have around 100 trillion cells). It is more about becoming aware of where we are at in the present time and being with that awareness to evoke the necessary shift or change in our bodies that we need. Bodywork tends to deal with what is going on in our bodies at that current time instead of looking back at the past from what I am reading.
Good point, Don. My T keeps dealing me that even in confronting & dealing with the past I must focus more on the now.
Also I noted this from your notes on Dr. Ford's "Compassionate Touch":
"An underlying premise of Compassionate Touch is that we can work with the physical truth of the body to resolve any related emotional truths, regardless of the source or nature of those emotional truths. Simply stated, when working through the body we do not really need to know the source of trauma in order to help the client heal." (p 9)
Still, without applying specific memories to each body cell, has any of your reading or work shown anything as to the potential effectiveness of specific work on specific parts of the body that have been traumatized in certain ways?
How might this tie into body work like rolfing, acupuncture or acupressure for instance?
It did. Many of your notes & quotes stuck out for me, like these:
(Pg 17) Survivors often feel the consequences of their abuse. These feelings are not abstract concepts, they are experienced through the body. Likewise, healing from abuse must also occur at this feeling level of the body."
(Pg 19) Our bodies can be our greatest ally or toughest adversary in the process of healing and recovery.
Some others hit me that I'm going to post about separately & soon, along with some stuff from the Van der Kolk article.
I've tried shiatzu and I really loved it. Probably will try it again soon. I'm still doing Yoga when I get the chance which is not often enough and it is helping me tremendously especially with the person that teaches it and how she does the class. I've heard the water movements are very helpful but have not tried them yet. My partner is trying accupuncture and in the two visits that he has gone to, I've seen a change in him (although he isn't able to see it yet).
Yoga, I could and probably should do more of.
Acupuncture or acupressure I've often thot of trying. Just gotta make sure stuff is gonna be worth getting into, and trying it once probably doesn't help much.
Shiatzu I know virtually nothing about. But I remember you posting before about how it was helpful to you.
Water movement, even in water aerobics, does seem to be helpful. I've also heard of things like water yoga, tai chi and even Pilates, tho I have yet to learn much about them. With my fibromyalgia
I have a feeling these could be quite helpful.
I love this topic... not only because I am writing a paper on it, but because I struggle with all of this personally.
And Don you've not only come a long way but have also helped others, myself included.
Victor, I'm glad I have met you on this forum.. YOu are an inspiration to me and I was just telling Jeff last night that it is nice to have someone to talk to that understands the impact of body work on healing (especially when we come from some of the physical things we have come from). Just had to say this because it means a lot to me to be able to talk to you about this and share with others as well.
Don I'm glad I met you too and thanks for all your support & encouragement.
I've got a lot to consider & work thru here.
TC & TTYL my friend.